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To think cannabis should be legal?

194 replies

RainbowsAndCrystals · 08/10/2017 12:40

Just came back from a week in Amsterdam.

I very occasionally smoke weed. It was just so nice to be able to sit outside, drink coffee and smoke with no judgment.

I saw hardly any police the entire time I wasn't there. Never felt unsafe.

OP posts:
gillybeanz · 08/10/2017 17:47

ellen

I'm sure you know this already but you don't have to smoke it, you can add it to sweet/chocolate desserts, apple pies, rice pudding etc or savoury meals like casseroles, also add some fresh nutmeg and bay leaf.

itsbetterthanabox · 08/10/2017 17:49

It hugely exacerbates mental health problems.
It makes people useless and boring and hide from the real world.
It's not a positive thing.

GabsAlot · 08/10/2017 17:49

alcohol dos more damage than cannabis but its ont taboo so everyone just accpts it a the norm

itsbetterthanabox · 08/10/2017 17:52

I don't get how it's relevant that alcohol in some ways is worse.
Alcohol can't be banned it doesn't work but it would be if it were created for the first time now.

CaretakerToNuns · 08/10/2017 17:54

YABU.

It's disgusting enough having to walk around town surrounded by cigarette smokers.

Pawpainting · 08/10/2017 17:55

It hugely exacerbates mental health problems.
It makes people useless and boring and hide from the real world.

It does that to some people. The majority of people who use cannabis have no I'll effects and carry on with their lives as normal .

Besides, the same could be said for alcohol except add in that it kills people directly through liver disease, cancer, pancreatitis and more. For some reason that is socially acceptable though and you have people looking down on weed users while sipping their glass of alcohol.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 08/10/2017 17:59

Cannabis doesn't cause mh problems? Pull the other one.

Heavy cannabis use of parents is a serious welfare issue to ss. I have more weed users on my caseload than methadone right now.

greylines · 08/10/2017 18:04

I have been around cannabis for some years now with my dad smoking it occasionally and my OH smoking it a lot and have only ever smoked it a few times myself .
I went to the Dam 2 years back and could not agree more , I felt so safe in the whole of the city , the people were so laid back , it’s just a completely different world and if I could I would quite happily move my family there .

Just my opinion but I think if alcohol is legal then so should cannabis . The affect alcohol has on the body compared to cannabis , I think it’s crazy that it hasn’t been legalised . You never see A&E clogged up on the weekend because someone got ‘too stoned’ or you never hear in the news about people taking an overdose of cannabis , I’ve not read an awful lot into it so like I said just my opinion but I just feel that alcohol seems a lot worse than cannabis and seeing the effects on people from both , cannabis just seems the better option .

brasty · 08/10/2017 18:06

If alcohol was newly invented, it too would be banned. That is not an argument to legalise cannabis.

Pawpainting · 08/10/2017 18:10

Heavy cannabis use of parents is a serious welfare issue to ss. I have more weed users on my caseload than methadone right now

I don't think anyone is saying that heavy use isn't a problem? Or doesn't cause or exacerbate mental health issues. There are many more people for whom occasional cannabis use does not cause any problems. Do you also have a large amount of alcohol abusers in your caseload? Does that lead you to think that all people who use alcohol are non functional or is it just weed?

Queenofthedrivensnow · 08/10/2017 18:16

Paw painting I have one former alcohol misuser for clarity.

Meanwhile I think legalising would do jack all
Except maybe generate some revenue. My smoking clients buy tobacco off the street because it's so expensive now. Methadone users use on top of their scripts with street methadone.

gillybeanz · 08/10/2017 18:18

I don't think it's the cannabis use that is the reason for serious welfare issues.

I know Teachers, Doctors, Lawyers, and other professionals who smoke regularly, there would be no reason for ss intervention for their dc welfare.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 08/10/2017 18:29

Plenty of evidence available about the harm to children of substance misusers.

habenero20 · 08/10/2017 18:35

Legalise it. Treat addicts as a social and health care problem. And educate instead scare people about drug use.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/10/2017 18:36

Yes especially to help illness and disability.

ludothedog · 08/10/2017 18:37

cannabis use itself is not enough for SS to be involved with a family only where it affects the MH and parental capacity. If you have a parent who is stoned all the time/a lot of the time you can see how this would have an effect on their ability to look after their children. That would be why SS would be involved. Similarly with issues with other substances such as alcohol.

brasty · 08/10/2017 18:39

Yes some people such as teachers and Drs can smoke occasionally and be fine. But my concern is with those it is harming and their children.

sinceyouask · 08/10/2017 18:43

Legal weed would probably be cheaper. I've read some research papers on this and if I ever manage to get dinner cooked and served up I will try and find them

thegreenlight · 08/10/2017 18:47

While we are at it can we legalise nitrous oxide? Then I won't have to go to the bother of having another baby to get hold of some! Imagine getting tanked in a swish oxygen bar with your mates, a few deep breaths of normal air at the end of the night and you don't even have to pay for a taxi home! Who's with me?

RemainOptimistic · 08/10/2017 18:49

YABU.

Those who are saying they smoke it daily with no mh effects. Try giving up for 6 months and come back to tell us how you got on.

gluteustothemaximus · 08/10/2017 18:53

I wonder if it was made legal what the limit would be for driving, or if there is a breathelyzer for cannibas?

I wouldn’t want it made legal. Having lived with someone for years and seeing a steady decline, same with my brother, and same with my DH’s step brother and an ex - paranoia and mental health issues are very much a problem.

I don’t think ‘well, alcohol is worse, and that’s legal’ should be the argument for legalising a drug like that.

fizzthecat1 · 08/10/2017 18:56

No, it shouldn't be legal. From people I know who smoke weed they are much more anxious / paranoid and have got worse over the years. Also I'm sick of the "But alcohol is worrrrsseeee" argument. Yes maybe so but if alcohol was discovered today it WOULD BE made illegal!!

DeleteOrDecay · 08/10/2017 19:13

Yes some people such as teachers and Drs can smoke occasionally and be fine. But my concern is with those it is harming and their children.

Yes but clearly cannabis being illegal isn’t a deterrent is it so what is your point?

DeleteOrDecay · 08/10/2017 19:16

If alcohol was newly invented, it too would be banned.

But Cannabis has been around since the beginning of time. In comparison alcohol is a relatively new invention.

Kpo58 · 08/10/2017 19:30

But Cannabis has been around since the beginning of time. In comparison alcohol is a relatively new invention.

You tell that to the drunken pigs who have eaten apples and other fruit fermenting under the trees. Animals have been getting tipsy ever since fruit existed.

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