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Where does the double barrelling stop

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DooWhaaDiddy · 06/10/2017 20:21

If an unmarried couple give the child both of their surnames, and that child then goes on to have a child with a partner who also has a doublebarrelled surname what do they do? Where does it stop! Application forms or the register at schools must be a nightmare Grin

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Ewanwhosearmy · 08/10/2017 12:45

I've just had to check the date. This is 2017 right? Not 1950.

This stupid stupid question seems to pop up on MN with as much regularity as P&C parking.

I made the decision to keep my own name when I got married back in the early 80s. When DC1 was on the way I made some enquiries about surnames and the information out there at the time - pre internet - was that you could give your child any surname you liked BUT for a married couple if you disagreed then the father's wishes would take precedence. Single women could do just as they pleased.

I think younger women on MN have either forgotten or just don't know how recent female freedoms are. Back just before I got married, despite being over 18 and in full time employment I had to have my father's permission for a bank loan (the bank said so, not my df).

So not wanting to lose my name after all that DH took out a deed poll to change his name to Myname-Hisname. The solicitor insisted on interviewing him alone in case I was coercing him Shock. The deed poll says "I take for myself, my wife and future issue..". I signed nothing, so as far as I'm concerned my legal name is the one I acquired at birth, but that's another story.

The children were all registered as Myname-Hisname (but on the Registrars list they appear twice; once as their proper name and once under just their father's Shock ). Over the years DH has dropped his original name and just uses mine. One DC uses just DH's, 2 use just mine, one uses both. He got married and my DIL took his whole name (then decided she didn't like my family and dropped mine). DS says his DC will have both names.

If and when the others get to that point they have a choice, just as I did. I'd be a bit sad if they dropped my name, but unlike my interfering MIL I won't be making it all about me. They will each get to choose what they want to do at the time, and I will address them by that choice and not impose my wishes on them.

Lweji · 08/10/2017 13:04

In Portugal they use the same convention of taking both parents names but they flip it so it is MothersSurname FathersSurname so it is the mother's name that is passed down to the next generation.

No. It's still the Father's name.

drspouse · 08/10/2017 13:35

Double-barrelliing a) isn't new and b) used to be vair vair posh as it was a way to keep a title alive.

Our two have my surname as well (and yes we're married) but as a middle name. However they could change and use it as their main last name, or double barrel, if they want.

HarryElephante · 08/10/2017 13:46

What do you think might be in a name for him, Harry?

I have no idea. I would have thought most would have gleaned that much from the question.

MistressDeeCee · 08/10/2017 14:04

I have my mother's (1 word) French surname then on father's (Latin American both Spanish & Portuguese) I have his surnames, with the maternal 1st. Chav city round hereGrin

GhostsToMonsoon · 08/10/2017 17:50

Seeing as schools have to teach everything under the sun these days why isn't sexual equality taught and practised as the norm? Keeping one's own name would be a good starting point for a debate. Probably doesn't help that only one or two women in schools keep their own name and title on marriage so might be a non-starter!

Women keeping their names doesn't necessarily reflect a feminist mindset - after all, women in Iran don't change their names on marriage, and that's hardly a feminist utopia. But yes it could be a good starting point for children to discuss. I don't think any of the female teachers at my children's school kept their names on marriage however.

I would say about 10% of DS's class have both parents' names, whereas when I was at school I don't remember anyone having a double-barrelled surname. I only know one woman whose child has her surname and not her dad's.

Choccywoccyhooha · 08/10/2017 18:41

I remember when Santa Palmer-Tomkinson married Simon Sebag-Montefiore, I really hoped she'd become Santa Palmer-Tomkinson-Sebag-Montefiore, but she's just Santa Montefiore. Disappointing.I have kept my maiden name, toyed with the kids being double-barrelled but decided against it.

contrary13 · 08/10/2017 18:52

Choccy - but that's because that's her choice.

Although, he was Montfiore at birth, rather than his full name (though she calls him Sebag, I'm told, rather than Simon, so...).

QueenOfTheAndals · 08/10/2017 19:07

Apparently everyone who knows him calls him that. I've read articles on him where he's always referred to as Sebag rather than Montefiore.

LinoleumBlownapart · 08/10/2017 19:17

MistressDeeCee my kids are even more chavy, they have my paternal grandmother's Swedish surname which is her father's name plus son, my Scottish maiden name and both DH's Portuguese surnames (mother and father). They are commonly known in Brazil as Bikes of Bahia, which are simple bikes dressed up with too much stuff Grin

Choccywoccyhooha · 08/10/2017 20:06

Oh no, I wasn't judging Santa. I was tongue in cheek disappointed because I think Palmer-Tomkinson-Sebag-Montefiore is a fabulous name.

Choccywoccyhooha · 08/10/2017 20:11

I know a family who use both parents surnames, but both parents have the same surname, so their children's last name is Kuba-Kuba,which has a wonderful ring to it. Unfortunately if we had double-barrelled it would be nowhere near as cool.

MistressDeeCee · 09/10/2017 00:51

LinoleumBlownapart I had to read that 3 times to work it out..I am in total awe and admiration..move up so I can join you on the Uber Chav sofa please Grin

ProseccoMamam · 09/10/2017 01:12

A friend of the family recently had a girl, she has a double barrelled first name, one middle name and then a triple barrel surname name. Poor fucking child. All because the mother wanted to be precious and out there like she’s the only person in this world to have a child and wanted it to be cutesy and specialHmm I pity that child I really do, and I hope she has the ability to have her name changed by deed pole to something more normal

drspouse · 09/10/2017 08:43

linoleum is that like "pimp my name"?

GreatFuckability · 09/10/2017 08:51

I'm more interested in the mindset of people who name their daughter Santa, tbh!

LinoleumBlownapart · 09/10/2017 10:13

Yes, it's pimp my name Grin. MistressDeeCee the irony is despite burdening my children with a Swedish-British-Portuguese name I don't belong on the bench as I dropped my maiden name and took only one of my husband's two surnames.

BikeRunSki · 09/10/2017 10:21

A friend of mine once dumped somebody when she thought it was getting a bit serious, as they both already had doubled barrelled surnames (v posh landed type backgrounds, not unmarried parents). She also had a 2 part first name. She would’ve been Mrs A-B C-D-E-F.

I’m sure there are deeper rooted reasons, but that was her official line. We were very young!

honeylulu · 09/10/2017 18:00

Santa means saint, I think.

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