Parent and child parking spaces closer than disabled parking

[FrustratedTeddyLamp]

AIBU to think this is wrong at my local Morrison’s? Parent and child directly in front of the door to the shop, the disabled spaces are to the side and I Would estimate the furthest ones are 3-5 times the distance of the parent and child spaces to the door of the shop.

Also AIBU to think it would be safer for the children not to have to cross the “ road” where the cars drive past to go along the car park so it would make sense to have them where the disabled parking is that is on the same side as the shop?

My local Waitrose has the p&c spaces at the far end of the car park nowhere near the store. Funnily enough they are almost always empty. Disabled spaces are right outside the store.

The p&c spaces have a walkway to them walled off (by a low wall) from the rest of the carpark. So absolutely safe for children to walk to the shop.

Given that supermarkets are pretty much the only places that have p&c spaces, how do desperate parents manage elsewhere?

witsender I wondered that the other day. Afaik only one car park here has p&c spaces. And even then it only allows you to park for one hour.

A multi story carpark here is closed at present for returning. It was an all day parking one. With about 600 spaces. No p&c but disabled spaces and electric car charging spaces.

When it reopens, it will be a “park for 3 hours or less” carpark. With a whole floor of p&c spaces a floor of disabled spaces and a floor of electric car charge points. Which is great for those who use those spaces.

Not so much for the people who used that car park to park all day for work....

I became disabled gradually over the course of 1 year. Day by day losing my mobility. DS was 2 weeks old and by his first birthday I couldn't walk more than 10 meters without needing to rest. I got a blue badge because I returned to work and couldn't get a parking space at work close enough to the building. It was a blu badge or walk 400 meters. That forced me to get a BB before I had really accepted becoming disabled. P&C spaces had enabled me to keep going in that time. And when not available, I absolutely got blocked in by cars too close to open the doors wide enough to get the baby carrier car seat through the gap.

The worst one was at the hospital, just me and DS. Just had my diagnosis and a name for what was wrong. Car doors blocked cos parking was shit and it was tipping down with rain. PFB couldn't get wet, I really did think he'd melt or die. I stood there crying until nothing changed. Then I put my baby in the boot and climbed over the seat, collapsed one side of the seat to then get DS in to the back, clicked him in safely and got in to the front. It wasn't easy, I dislocated every finger and one hip. I cried all the way home and vowed to park like a dick from that day on. If I can't use a disabled or P&C bay, I will park 'defensively'. As diagonal in the box as I can so that one from and one rear door will be accessible and most people will avoid parking near me. I hate doing and don't have the swagger of a dick but I need to for my health.

Disabled spaces should be most accessible to the store so alothough that will probably always mean closest sometimes it might not

I don't know where you people are shopping but I have never been anywhere where there are no BB spaces but loads of p&c. I wouldn't begrudge a disabled person using p&c if there were no BB but I doubt that situation is a regular occurrence as there is always loads of empty p&c. I've also never been anywhere that p&c are by the shop and BB are far away. They are always together.

Also the person that said park at the back of the car park so you don't get trapped in your car.
I do do that but it doesn't stop people in massive cars parking next to me when I am in the shop does it. People can't block your door if your in p&c that's the point of it. I would rather p&c were further away to stop people using them when they don't need to.

doubt that situation is a regular occurrence as there is always loads of empty p&c -supposed to say BB spaces.

ASDA near me has P&C spaces closer than Disabled spaces. They also have electric wheelchairs with a shopping basket you can use free of charge. I could only just about get to the electric wheelchairs, if I was parked close to the store. So I parked in a P&C space. Didn't care if someone didn't like it. Tough.

Every had one of those store provided electric wheelchairs run out of power on you? I have. With a full basket of shopping in the front. Close a standard trolley size.
Fucking humiliating. This is why some chose to walk when in severe pain, to stay in control.

I have luckily never have that happen. I would have been stuck as I could only physically walk a very short distance.

To be fair BB holders can park anywhere as long as not dangerous (even double yellows) so obviously could park in P&C if they needed to

Have also wondered about parking in p&c space when out without kids but 38wks pg with SPD. Does the child have to be on the outside? (Never dared try it in case someone shouted at me)

Wish they'd get rid of these fucking P&C spaces.

It used to be the same at our local M&S. I did email about it also about the fact that the orange emergency cord in the loo still had it's cable tie on (weeks after opening). They have changed the P and C to disabled and changed some of the normal bays at the side to P and C. I do think sometimes you have to complain about these things to help get them changed.

All those people who keep saying 'parents of young children manage without P&C spaces at all sorts of places that aren't supermarkets' Well I didn't always manage. I can remember at least twice having to wait until someone turned up to move their car, parked too close to mine to open the door, and also having to clamber over from the passenger side while seven months pregnant with twins. I can remember that took about 20 minutes, and at one point I was stuck and wasn't at all certain I could go forward or backwards. When it happened again a week later I went back into the shop and asked them to tannoy for the driver. I can also remember several times having to post the girls into the back from the boot.

Definitely P&C spaces should be not so close to the shop/attraction that they encourage lazy people. Whereas BB should be as close as possible.

@Danceswithwarthogs I used P&C spaces when they were available from the point that manoeuvring my enormous twin bump in and out required the door to be opened absolutely to the max. No-one ever shouted at me.

A PP has asked why would the B&B spaces need to be closer, if I can get round the shop in a wheelchair why can't I get from the car park. I'll tell you. It is fucking dangerous getting through a car park in a wheelchair. I am low down, people don't see me. People reversing out of their spaces don't see me.

I despair - can I yet again try to make it clear that there are bb holders who do NOT use wheelchairs but have severe mobility problems. Ergo, bb spaces need to be as close as possible to store entrance

I use my wheelchair part time. If I use it all the time I will loose the muscle tone I have in my legs and will be unable to walk due to strength rather than the cause of my disability. There are times where I have to keep walking rather than use the chair, despite my pain. The extra 25 meters worth of capacity I have, because BB space is closer, gets me down two more aisles in the supermarket. That's milk and bread, because they're never next to each other, rather than choosing one or the other. I make compromises like this all the time, when I have the energy and pain threshold to get both, I want both. Boils my piss to hobble away with just the milk cos some lazy fucker parked in the last BB bay to go to the cash point.

Tea is obviously more important than toast in my house