Parent and child parking spaces closer than disabled parking

[FrustratedTeddyLamp]

AIBU to think this is wrong at my local Morrison’s? Parent and child directly in front of the door to the shop, the disabled spaces are to the side and I Would estimate the furthest ones are 3-5 times the distance of the parent and child spaces to the door of the shop.

Also AIBU to think it would be safer for the children not to have to cross the “ road” where the cars drive past to go along the car park so it would make sense to have them where the disabled parking is that is on the same side as the shop?

YANBU. The only explanation I cAn think of is they are trying to eliminate the problem of the selfish lazy "im only popping to the kiosk for 5 minutes" brigade parking in the disabled spaces.

tippz
How delightful, it’s the first tine I’ve been on MN today so I wouldn’t know, I’ve also been posting for about 3 years, so no I’m not doing it to get into the mail. Like my last response said it’s the first time I’ve been there with my munn since she’s been in a wheelchair, a simple observation.

Although even if my life was sad enough that I sat and schemed how to get in the mail, I’d still post what I please and you don’t have to read it.

Why do any of the spaces need to be close. If you can walk/use a wheelchair round the shop, surely you can walk to it.
I would prefer p&c were further away to stop people using them who shouldn't.
Also, it annoys me that people that can use both use p&c as there is never enough p&c but always loads of empty disabled.

You park in the parent and child spaces because they are situated where you think the blue badge ones should be, aren't you a delight! It's because of selfish people like you that I had to leave my baby in the trolley and reverse my car out into the middle before I could put her car seat in because there were no more child spaces and LOADS of blue badge spaces that I can't park in so I had to park in a normal space. If you think they should be moved write to the manager, head office, get a petition going, get in the local paper, decide to shop somewhere else: whatever just don't be a dick.

If you are able bodied and have a baby not a toddler there is no real issue for you. You could pack far away from the shop, carry your baby in to the shop and back again! Toddlers are different, in that they are not quite so easy to control, I get that.

I have a blue badge, I need to park near the shop in order to shop.

Why do any of the spaces need to be close. If you can walk/use a wheelchair round the shop, surely you can walk to it.

Surely if doesn't take a lot of thinking to realise people who can only walk for limited distances might not be able to manage both the car park and the shop but could do one or the other?

I guess the thinking is that people who have multiple young children (like me) can get them in and out in turn and stand them on the pavement where they are safe rather than in the middle of the car park where they are definitely not.

That said, I have absolutely no problem with disabled people parking in P&C spaces if required. I can always go and park my car right at the back of the car park if I have to.

Too much drip feeding from you @FrustratedTeddyLamp

You never mentioned any mother in a wheelchair in your first post, which is what people were responding to.

When you didn't get the responses you wanted, you decided to conveniently introduce your disabled mother into the equation.

Very bad form.

Actually this whole issue would be solved if car parks gave enough room for every car to park with room to swing your door open at least 1 side, that way if u have a child u can get them out and people needing extra room can park where they want.

Ok Tippz if you want to make it an issue, make it an issue, I don’t see why stating in what capacity I needed a disabled space, changes anything. The point from the OP still stands I used a disabled bay today and noticed the considerable difference in the two different sets of parking spaces, the spaces don’t move closer or further if it’s my mum in a wheelchair or an uncle with a missing arm.

How do people cope in places there aren't P&C spaces?!
My GP surgery doesn't have them, neither does my son's school car park, the multi story in our local town, local library etc. Everyone manages just fine.
It's like there's some bizarre effect on parking ability when you've popped a baby out. Christ.

You park in the parent and child spaces because they are situated where you think the blue badge ones should be, aren't you a delight! It's because of selfish people like you that I had to leave my baby in the trolley and reverse my car out into the middle before I could put her car seat in because there were no more child spaces and LOADS of blue badge spaces that I can't park in so I had to park in a normal space. If you think they should be moved write to the manager, head office, get a petition going, get in the local paper, decide to shop somewhere else: whatever just don't be a dick.

Don't be a dick indeed.

Don't be so fucking ridiculous either!

You can't park in BB spaces as you aren't legally allowed to without a BB. There is no such bloody law around P&C spaces despite wishful delusions thinking from hysterical parents who manage just fine in Legoland but fall to bits in a supermarket car park.

Fuxache!

Our local Sainsbury's has the best set up, disabled bays right outside and parent and child around the further edge. All.under cover, with big wide spaces and a wide walkway around the edge with bollards marking it. Lots of trolley drop offs right there too. But because they are further away than lots of 'normal' spaces there is no incentive for cheeky fuckers to park there.

Aldis is the opposite, drives me mad. Parent and child right outside front door, disabled (fewer spaces) around the corner involving a roadway. Nuts. I tell my mum to park in the P&C as it makes much more sense.

Also Tippz if you think I’m lying about my mum, on this thread linked I talk about her PIP assessment, granted it doesn’t state her disabilities

PIP medical request to GP - confused
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3047210-PIP-medical-request-to-GP-confused#72386313www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3047210-PIP-medical-request-to-GP-confused#72386313

I honestly don't give a toss where the paremt&child spots are in a carpark, I'm just eternally grateful when there is one and I can get two small kids in without having to contort myself to do up the seat belts!

The reason P&C aren't legal spots like disabled spaces is because, usually, having a child young enough for a parent to find such a space useful is a phase in life. So whilst it might be a subject of passion for a time, as the perceived "need" diminishes the desire to campaign so too disappears.

Disabled people fought tooth and nail for those spaces - a disability rarely disappears.

@tippz has got a thing about people telling porkie pies....

Makes good business sense to have p and c closest. Supermarkets don't care about the comfort of either parents, young children or people with disabilities. They care about making money. And they'll get more money from pleasing families than from pleasing people with disabilities (where a larger proportion will be old, live in 1s or 2s and have limited money to spend.) Callous but logical

CoveredInFondant

Thankyou. You're probably the only one so I'll take what I can get!

It must be a Morrisons thing as I was only thinking the same last night

It's definitely not just Morrisons jace.

It's like it in our Morrisons and Tescos.
Aldi are very helpfully next to the door unfortunately if you go in a busy time coz of where the disabled bays are it takes about 30 mins to get out the space coz everyone is walking being the car to get to Aldi or take their trolley back.