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To hate the laughing at "lower class" people on here?

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brasty · 05/10/2017 10:02

I know it gets disguised as laughing at certain children's names, phrases, etc, but there is a lot of threads on MN that is really about laughing at poorer people. Hate it.

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CakesRUs · 05/10/2017 13:04

I agree totally. However, I'm not a wealthy person and I hate the word "Hun" because it comes across as really insincere and fake. Hun seems sneery to me.

PolkaDottyRose · 05/10/2017 13:12

M4Dad, I don't know how to quote on Mumsnet, but you are 100% right. We are all a few bad happenings away from having nothing.

Clandestino · 05/10/2017 13:18

I believe you are mainly referring to the baby names thread and I have to say I was horrified at the amount of racism there.
People sneering at names which are actually common in other cultures (members of which had the cheek to actually settle down in the UK and giving their children traditional names), even Cornish or Welsh names, mostly out of utter ignorance. I pretty much modified my opinion on some of the posters I actually found very respectful and decent people before.
While there is some sneering at the upper classes, it's mostly at the snobbery there but with the lower classes it's the general idea of someone from a different class, with lower education and God forbid different ethnic background.

2014newme · 05/10/2017 13:19

Income and class are not the same thing. Wayne Rooney is a millionaire. He's also working class and will never in a mo that if Sundays be anything else.
Ditto my millionaire scrap dealer neighbour. Whose wife wears her name emblazoned in diamanté on her arse. They gave an expensive house, kids in private school etc but are working class to their boots.

RoseWhiteTips · 05/10/2017 13:19

...are threads...

ditzyglamour · 05/10/2017 13:21

The threads that annoy me most are the ones where parents ask 'is this an acceptable lunch/dinner/tea/lunchbox for my child' along with a list of extremely healthy foods with plenty of variety alongside a picture.

It seems some people are simply looking for a pat on the back. They know they are not being unreasonable!

florentinasummertime · 05/10/2017 13:21

Classism goes both ways and I have known people be equally rude about middle class values.

TheFirstMrsDV · 05/10/2017 13:26

Whose wife wears her name emblazoned in diamanté on her arse. They gave an expensive house, kids in private school etc but are working class to their boots

I have known people be equally rude about middle class values

A couple of things.
Having poor taste in clothes is not a signifier of working classness. You seem to take this woman's taste as proof that she is working class despite her wealth. Like it gives her away.

To the other poster.
What are middle class values then? How do they differ from working class ones?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/10/2017 13:29

Has everyone seen Grayson Perry's "A matter of taste"?

Clandestino · 05/10/2017 13:29

What are middle class values then? How do they differ from working class ones?

It's avocado on toast instead of beans. The upper class would give a shit.

Nestlyn · 05/10/2017 13:30

Agree, I also find the threads that mock other people's choice of home decoration, very unpleasant.

There was one this week, where the op was listing her hatred of twig hearts, wall stickers etc. No one is brave enough show us there homes though.

ditzyglamour · 05/10/2017 13:30

bluntness in defence to the thread I started about 'tea' it's true, that saying annoys me. But I don't judge people by their class for saying it.

As I said down thread, I dated a northerner. I'm aware it's regional. But, living in London it has become more of a said thing here over the years, replacing dinner. Drives me bonkers.

FrancisCrawford · 05/10/2017 13:32

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yolofish · 05/10/2017 13:34

Sometimes it seems to me that some posters will just leap on a particular, possibly trivial, angle and use it to define their own particular beliefs and very often be quite (OK, very) nasty to the OP. Then others will leap in to support the nasty one and so it goes on.

I don't like mocking anyone for their choice of names/clothes/food, it just seems cruel and irrelevant. Better to either say nothing or say something constructive.

DaisyDrip · 05/10/2017 13:36

ditzyglamour

I am a northerner, we have breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's not regional it's personal.

Fatarseflanagan09 · 05/10/2017 13:37

Council estate bashing pisses me off, I live in a council house, I'm not a chav, scruffy or a sponger, I've paid tax, council tax, and I don't live rent free either. And have you ever noticed that on these benefit bashing programmes on tv they pay more attention to the skirting boards and carpets than they do to the people they are interviewing.

Original poster
brasty · 05/10/2017 13:37

It is class based

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WaxOnFeckOff · 05/10/2017 13:37

As I said down thread, I dated a northerner. I'm aware it's regional. But, living in London it has become more of a said thing here over the years, replacing dinner. Drives me bonkers.

So, if someone says it as an affectation then that's annoying but it's okay if that is genuinely what the person would normally say? that's fair enough - i didn't read the thread. I tend to use Tea and Dinner interchangeably. I grew up having Dinner and Tea and now have Lunch and Dinner mostly. I don't think I've changed because I think it's wrong to say Dinner and Tea, it'sjust no longer my reality. Back then I would have a Dinner in the middle of the day and a lighter meal in the evening. Now it tends to be the other way around.

ditzyglamour · 05/10/2017 13:38

The general consensus was that is was regional. Even my ex would agree.

Clandestino · 05/10/2017 13:38

It is sadly not uncommon for a poster suggesting a Polish name for her baby of Polish heritage to be told to either Anglicise the name or choose an English name because they are living in the UK.

But that's not because of the racism, it's so they "better fit in" and "don't get bullied". Yep, by morons like the posters who teach their children that someone called Katarzyna or Maksymilian should be sneered at.
It reminds me of a colleague who was totally pissed off because in the Christmas Radio they played Feliz Navidad. In an English speaking country!!!!

existentialmoment · 05/10/2017 13:39

They say the same thing for Irish names.

RoseWhiteTips · 05/10/2017 13:39

So to make yourself feel better about not being a high achiever, you write this:
Most people on here are low-grade admin at best, with an average 3 bed semi, and an average income

Laughable.

DaisyDrip · 05/10/2017 13:41

ditzyglamour

I don't care what your ex said. Tea is something you drink or have mid afternoon ie afternoon tea usually on a Sunday. It comprises (usually) of sandwiches and a selection of pastries and/or cakes. It is not a main meal.

Ptol · 05/10/2017 13:41

If you dare to post anything which people may think is "posh", eg. I posted a list of baby names I liked, many posters pounced on me for being unbearably pretentious and pseudo posh. There are bitter people on this forum at both ends of the spectrum.

WaxOnFeckOff · 05/10/2017 13:45

Children don't really know if a name should be sneered at or not - that's learned behaviour, probably from their parents. They don't have a reference list of acceptable names to choose from. It's only funny if the namesounds like something else or makes a funny rhyme. The only name my child has ever commented on was when he has a girl called Santa in his class and that was more with amazement and confusion rather than anything else.