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Original poster

To let dd take day off school tomorrow?

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Auntieobem · 04/10/2017 22:29

She's been on a day trip with school to Amsterdam - up at 2 am this morning. Flight just landed, probably 2 hours until she gets home. She can stay home tomorrow can't she?

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auntieobem · 04/10/2017 23:19

School have said that they wouldn't mind if they were off tomorrow

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SillyMoomin · 04/10/2017 23:20

School have said that they wouldn't mind if they were off tomorrow

  • then why blinking ask a load of strangers on the internet if the school have already said it’s ok?!
Scoobydoobydont · 04/10/2017 23:20

Are folk missing the bit where she was up at 2 am this morning to set off?*

No

Seriously. No wonder we have a generation of people who can’t do any work and are on the phone to mummy every time they have an issue or need to put a bit of effort in.

It’s one day! People can easily go 36-48 hours without sleep and in this country we are lucky enough that if it happens it’s normally because we have been away on a trip or been up all night partying.

Millions of people in the rest of the world aren’t so lucky🙁 likewise millions of people in previous generations.

Timetobookaholiday · 04/10/2017 23:21

I don't think 1 late night with an early start warrants a day off school, it's not teaching them the right working ethos is it!
Though I don't understand why the school have arranged such a late night day trip for year 10 children Hmm
And I have had to get up extremely early for a business trip, flew home and got to bed at the same time as you DD, and in work the next morning, that's the way life is.

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auntieobem · 04/10/2017 23:22

ACAS - (For those comparing to work) 11 consecutive hours' rest in any 24-hour period.

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auntieobem · 04/10/2017 23:24

Scooby - don't be ridiculous.

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Scoobydoobydont · 04/10/2017 23:25

ACAS - (For those comparing to work) 11 consecutive hours' rest in any 24-hour period

Not in the real world.

Are you a civil servant/teacher?

C8H10N4O2 · 04/10/2017 23:25

Imaging the 15 and 16 year olds in the trenches.

Or 8 yr olds in factories and up chimneys except we don't do that because we are able to give better care and protection to children now.

OP: if she does get home by 00:30 and then needs to eat something/unwind what time does she need to wake up for school? I'd set the alarm anyway, she will probably be ok and catch up tomorrow night even on just a few hours.

Mine never got straight to sleep after a trip like that and had to be up early however they generally wanted to go in and unless actually ill we sent them. They and their peers were then largely useless all day at school and at some point the policy changed so that very late returners from lengthy school trips were not expected until mid morning. That way they were awake enough to all work the rest of the day which was more productive.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/10/2017 23:28

Not in the real world.

In the real world most jobs are not contracted or demanding 14 hrs a day work in one block.

Are you a civil servant/teacher?

Well I'm neither of those but you are doing a good job of being a GF

melj1213 · 04/10/2017 23:29

YABU

If she gets home at midnight send her straight to bed with just a quick wash/teeth brush and she should be fine to go to school on 7 hours sleep as a one off. If their flight landed at 10.30 I assume they're getting a coach back which is why it's a 2hr trip from the airport so they'll undoubtedly all have had a nap too (I am a manager at a summer camp and pretty much every teenager will end up napping on the coach home if it's for more than about half an hour and it's the end of a long day)

Does she have to get up at 7 because she usually walks/gets bus to school? If so could she, for this one day only, get up later and you drop her at school? I used to get up at 7am for school so I had time to shower, have breakfast and not be rushed before I had to leave the house at 8:15 to get to school on time ... if we had a school trip that got back late, for that one morning only I'd roll out of bed at 8, throw on my uniform, grab a cereal bar and still be out of the door at 8:15. No way it would have been practical to do every day but as a one off it was fine.

Also if most students in the year went on this trip then the teachers of their classes tomorrow are going to be well aware that the kids got back late. Therefore they are most likely just going to accept that they are not going to get as much work done as usual and will adjust their lesson plans accordingly for those classes tomorrow.

BlueButTrue · 04/10/2017 23:29

Ffs just keep her off, some of you are bloody ridiculous

I never had much energy at 14, I use to sleep after school/between studying

BlessYourCottonSocks · 04/10/2017 23:32

Staff will also have got up at 2.00am. And will be expected to be in work tomorrow.

Pupils at our school who failed to turn up to school after a trip due to 'tiredness' would be banned from going on another one.

Scoobydoobydont · 04/10/2017 23:33

In the real world most jobs are not contracted or demanding 14 hrs a day work in one block

Not every day if every week they aren’t (unless you are self employed)

As a one off surely everyone would do at least a 14 hour day to “help out” or because “needs must”

Six hours sleep in a 48 hour period is plenty to just get up and crack on with stuff. It might not be ideal, you might not feel like it, and you probably wouldn’t want to do it every other day but it’s hardly a big deal.

At 14 she could have her own child perfectly legally in 3 years and then six hours unbroken sleep would be an absolute dream.

Notthemessiah · 04/10/2017 23:33

For God's sake, what are you doing letting your child enjoy herself? Let her have one day off school and in 4 years time she'll be a workshy, Corbyn supporting layabout with no skills, sponging off the state. What would all those teenage hunter-gatherers have thought of such an attitude while they were out hunting mammoths at dawn?

Ankleswingers · 04/10/2017 23:37

So much obsession over school attendance these days.

Utterly bonkers and all in the name of number crunching and stats.

Keep her off and don't worry about it anymore. She'll be so exhausted it won't be conducive to learning anyway- so pointless sending her in.

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 04/10/2017 23:39

If school said it was ok, why did you ask? Not being snarky, genuine question.

Longdistance · 04/10/2017 23:39

Last year we came back from Cyprus on what would have been the first day of term. Landed 2am too, and took dd's into school the next day.

Came back from Cuba on a night flight, dd's went straight into school off the plane looking tanned and lovely.

Toughen Princess 💪🏼

CottonEyedJoe · 04/10/2017 23:40

For God's sake, what are you doing letting your child enjoy herself? Let her have one day off school and in 4 years time she'll be a workshy, Corbyn supporting layabout with no skills, sponging off the state. What would all those teenage hunter-gatherers have thought of such an attitude while they were out hunting mammoths at dawn?

Grin

Scooby you are being bloody ridiculous. Shall we go back to the racist, sexist times of yore when we cheerily waved our 16 year olds off to fight in the trenches, as you deem it to be optimum parenting?

CottonEyedJoe · 04/10/2017 23:41

Toughen Princess 💪🏼

Envy
Lindy2 · 04/10/2017 23:42

It's not so much the late night, it's the 2am start to a very long day that would be exhausting.
I'd keep a 14 year old off for at least the next morning but would probably send her in for the afternoon. I think people underestimate the need for sleep sometimes.
Half a day off isn't going to damage her education.
Why did they do such a long day trip? It sounds like an odd choice by the school edpecially for a midweek, one day trip.

Ankleswingers · 04/10/2017 23:44

LongDistance

Well aren't you the martyr.

Butterymuffin · 04/10/2017 23:44

Was going to post that surely school have said what their expectations are, then see that that's been drip fed in on page 3. You could have said that at the start!

bogofeternalstench · 04/10/2017 23:44

Scooby No, not everyone would be willing to work a 14 hour day, even if it was occasional. I certainly wouldn't. An extra hour, or two at a push, but no way in hell am I working an additional 6 hours, no matter what the emergency. And no, I don't work for the civil service or as a teacher. I'm in the corporate dept of a multinational. And, from my brief stint doing a PGCE, I have to say that teaching is an utterly ridiculous example for you to use as a profession working short hours.

TootDeLaFroot · 04/10/2017 23:51

The teachers will have to go in, so should the children.

Scoobydoobydont · 04/10/2017 23:54

No, not everyone would be willing to work a 14 hour day, even if it was occasional. I certainly wouldn't. An extra hour, or two at a push, but no way in hell am I working an additional 6 hours, no matter what the emergency.

Fair enough. I am out. Some people don’t know they are born (or have any sense of team spirit or customer service)

Many, many people work 14 hour days. 14 times 6 is only 84 and lots of people don’t get the choice but to work 70- 80- 90 hours a week.