To think kids shouldn't talk to teachers like this.

[onlyindreams]

I realise that the majority of kids will show respect to teachers but some of the stuff my dgc tell me is awful. One girl called her teacher a disgusting human being" , another said "you dirty little peado", another one said, when asked not to shout "who do you think you're talking to".

How has it all come to this, i despair, where's the respect gone, please tell me it's not all that bad and not typical of the average 12/13 year old and probably above.

Staples

Are the two instances from today acceptable behaviour towards a teacher then too?

There's a retention crisis cause peeps being paid 23k a year to work til midnight. Recent graduates want better work-life balance & decent salary for their investment in tuition fees.

It's funny. Here in America I send my eldest to school and it's crystal clear from DH and I that while at school the DC are representing our family therefore we expect the DC to behave in a way that doesn't make the family look bad. That starts with the DC doing as thei teacher says. Very simple.... when you are in the classroom the teacher is responsible for setting the rules with the DC responsible for following them. The DC have no sympathy from us when those rules are flouted and we let the teachers decide on the punishment. Their classroom, their rules, their consequences.

If my kid was leaning back on a chair I would have zero issues with my child being made to stand for the entire day if that is what the teacher decided to do. It's extremely dangerous to do that with serious consequences for the teacher/school should an accident happen. It also breaks the chair.

RaeAm how disgusting. what, if any are the consequences?

Someone claiming to be a teacher but isn't aware that rag in the context it was used and indeed any other context, doesn't begin with w.

Shell. Which is why I pointed out that it was my stupid phone and corrected it.

Wanttobesupermum

Nice to hear you back teachers decisions, I wish it was like that in the Uk.

Raeam

Just awful, I mean I know children are going to pick up these words but to use towards a teacher. I hope they were punished.

I think there's a general lack of respect shown by dc towards ALL adults, whether or not they're teachers.

Nice to hear you back teachers decisions, I wish it was like that in the Uk.
I'm lucky. In my school most of our parents are that supportive. Very polite and reasonable if they need to raise a concern abs very supportive when teachers need to flag up issues.

It's the loud minority who are a pain in the arse that take up so much time

Six year old told me I was a'....kin' fat b....ch and he was going to burn my house down'.
Reported it. No sanction for him'because he was upset' at having to come to school.
Verbal abuse is a daily occurrence in every primary school..in all areas.
It is an insidious creeping malaise that is ruining adults lives and disrupting childrens learning. This is my 21st year in education. Every year increasing numbers of increasingly younger children are becoming less respectful, more entitled and more aggressive. Unions deal with increasing numbers of reports verbal and physical abuse.

Yes the problem lies with the way teachers are treated in general. Years of this and the likes of Gove encouraging people to see teachers as lazy who get endless summers and crazy workloads means we have a massive recruitment crisis. People should patt themselves on the back for a job well done.

OK let's try it this way. I often work with homeless people. They often swear and are aggressive and confrontational. They can't drive me to anything, because the whole idea of working with homeless people is that you treat them with respect. Bit like kids I imagine?

Nothing like the same. Why are you getting so het up about a poorly behaved child being told to stand up for a couple of hours? What if I insisted that I knew how to do your job better than you? Stop over-analysing it- it probably taught her a valuable lesson. Leave the teachers to get on with their (extremely challenging, largely thankless) job of educating the younger generation.

Meh. Like one other poster in this thread, I teach in FE and tbh, most of this bad behaviour is nothing compared to a college. Teachers are not supported in any way, when it comes to discipline, due to funding issues. We have to keep the students at all costs or we lose the class and thus our hours. Therefore we report bad behaviour, they get a telling off or their parents are sent a letter home. Whoopie bloody doo. I had my wrist badly damaged due to a lad slamming a door open on to it and then had a message passed to by admin from our HoD saying that I should just forget it, we weren’t going to exclude. I should have reported to police for assault but was advised that was a good way to lose job.
When parents do come in, we usually get sob stories about their precious little snowflakes. In one case the lad misbehaved because it was my fault in not giving enough positive reinforcement. I’m not there to hold their hands and tell them their one line report is amazing. It’s my job to critique their work, point out how to improve it and just get on and teach them.
By 16/17 they should know how to behave, but I’ve had a few students who seem to have been brought up animals.
Luckily this year I have got some wonderful students, but just one (who is 18!) who I have seen 3 times since the beginning of September and then complained because I refused to take time out from teaching the rest of the class to sit and go through 3 weeks of work with her. She’ll end up failing due to absence and we’ll lose the funding for her anyway, so I don’t know why we can’t just suggest she goes elsewhere. She freely admitted that she’s only here so her parents can get child benefit and tax credits. It’s a bloody farce.
And while I’m venting, FE teachers don’t work the same way as in school. We don’t get the same pay, the same short days. We certainly don’t get the holidays but have to come in and do admin. We get 28 days only to be taken holiday time. But I finally got my QTS so I’m looking for a school job even though I love the actual job I’m doing. Just driven out by shit leadership.

Maisypops

Totally agree most parents and children are very polite, but the children who are not are the ones parents seem to defend.

Today a boy told me to do it myself because I asked him to write the date and title because he was talking. A boy also threatened to pee on the floor because I wouldn't let him go to the toilet.

Those types of children always have parents who will blame the teacher.

Would be interested to hear from the people who think that being made to stand is so awful, what would you do if that girl was your DD and came home telling you that they had been made to stand for the afternoon for swinging on their chair?

I am of course assuming that she told you honestly that she had been doing it all day and had been warned repeatedly not to.

lm9004 if you were my children’s teacher I’d be very grateful that you prevented them from having a nasty head injury. I bet she never swings on a chair again!

It’s awful what teachers have to put up with. And the scary thing is this entitled generation will be the ones caring for us in our old age.

In my college we(teachers) aren’t supposed to sit down. We don’t even have a chair or desk. I always perch on a table and when I got told off by HoD, reminded her that I have osteoporosis caused by my breast cancer drugs.

Teachers are not the only ones who work beyond their contracted hours. Yawn. Many other professions do too
And most people get paid overtime - teachers don't. Working until 5 or 6 pm in school and then doing a couple of hours a night at home is not quite the same as doing an extra 30 minutes as a favour to your boss.
Also most people paid holidays - teachers don't.
And most people, with the exception of nurses, police and paramedics, don't have to maintain a saintly level of patience with people who are abusive or violent towards them.
That yawn speaks volumes - if you have children they will have so much respect for teachers...

Cherrychasingdotmuncher

Thankyou.

Today a boy threatened to piss in my class because I wouldn't let him go to the toilet. Another boy replied with do it yourself after telling him to write the date and title.

You are right we do put up with a lot.

That’s disgusting lm9004. I’d be mortified if either of mine did that. I just have no words.

Kids are not stupid. They know adults are terrified of upsetting them, starting with their parents when they are tiny, and then teachers at school..In fact, no one is allowed to upset them because of the awful psychological damage it will do them
We reap what we sow....

I remember being in school not to long ago and hold my hands probably could have had a bit more respect but if I’m honest a fair few of the teachers themselves could have done with some social skills just because the rules say your entitled to “instruct” a student doesn’t mean you can’t do it with a bit of taste.

In life we are taught to respect one another meaning two ways surely that should start in school.

I’m not condoling the terrors that are plain right rude but sometimes teachers can be nasty too I remember highlighting a conversation with 1 teacher about a year after having said conversation and she brought me chocolates to apologies for the occurrence... needless to say she had more respect from me after acknowledging I was also another person!!!

Asked a child in reception not to run on the stairs. It's the only time so far a child has called me a bitch

My class can be very rude, but I'm a hardassed bitch and they don't do it for long. I call the parents, and most of them are very good about it.

One of the problems, though, is parents who are blind to it or actively encourage it. The number of children who've told me "but my mum says if someone's bothering me I'm SUPPOSED to hit them!"