To think that a regular 3 yo...

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With no sn should be able to put on a pair of trainers? not expected to do laces, simply just put on. Was 3 in March.

I'd think but not all SN are obvious let alone dx 3 (I have 2 DC one with complex and severe needs who it got 'noticed' at 3 and a younger child with mild Sn who was on nobody's radar at 3).

there is also a crucial difference between can't and won't

Yes, but only if the shoes fit (not too narrow) and if they've been given the opportunity to try. They might need time to do it.

My 3y10m can put his soft trainers on but not his Clarks.

I would expect a 3yo to have a good stab at it, but often put the shoes on the wrong feet or have the tongue bunched up a bit or similar.

Put them on, yes. Not always on right feet though. That can take a little longer.

Yes i did Sharks i said they should be able to as my severly autistic child could at that age

How ridiculous. You honestly think your severely autistic son sets the bar for ability?

OP all children do things at their own pace. Some will be better at some things and others will be better at other things.

I agree with star who says that while they shoule be able to (as in no reason not to be able) sometimes opportunity hasn’t been provided enough. Mine wouldn’t have managed trainers at that age because he always wore bloody wellies or his slip ons

Context, as always, is vital

It wasn't something I worried myself over. Mine are 5&8 and manage just fine getting dressed. I didn't force it (my eldest still likes me to help him get dressed sometimes- probably because he likes being babied. He's anything but).

Mine can .. if she wants too... often on wrong feet. 4 years 3 months

No of course i dont Migraleve but as he was and still is far less able thamn other children his age but could manage it then a typical three year old should aa others have said why single me out anyway why not have a pop at others who have said three year olds can usually manage it?

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why not have a pop at others who have said three year olds can usually manage it?

Because you said based on your child all 3yos should be able to do it. That simply is not the case.

Ah i cant be arsed with all this bitchiness for the sake of it and deliberately misinterpreting what i,m saying .

Mine can't . He finds it frustrating so won't even try. I'm not 100% sure he's nt though so that may have something to do with it, though probably more likely that DH and I have always babied him .

If the child is 3 and 7 months, then they should be able to, if the shoe is an easy slip on.

My DD wouldn't, because she used to say that it hurt. She wasn't diagnosed with hyper mobility in her fingers until around eight.

My 3 year old GD does what she chooses and life has taught me that it isn't worth the upset to not go with that.

If you are talking about someone else's child, then it's a case of butt out. Still dressing them at three doesn't mean that you will be dressing them at thirteen.

Ah i cant be arsed with all this bitchiness for the sake of it and deliberately misinterpreting what i,m saying

I did not misinterpret what you said and no one was being bitchy. What I did was as called responding, not bitching fgs.

These are your words....

I said they should be able to as my severly autistic child could at that age

.....I took them at face value and commented.

Depends on the shoe. Tight trainers then I still have to help my 5 year old sometimes, however wellies, my almost 2 year old can put on easily.

x2boys I understood what you meant. I also think that at times posters can be quite cutting in their responses when there's no need. X2 didn't say anything ridiculous, and aggressive responses can make posters worry about posting anything.

My son was three in March and can put on his shoes and do the Velcro straps, sometimes he puts them on the wrong feet but can certainly put them on and take them off no problems.

Thanks Sparta

Aggressive? Really

Of course it is ridiculous to suggest that simply because one child who has difficulties could put shoes on by age 3 that every 3 year old should be able to.

Judging every 3yo on one single child’s abilities is indeed ridiculous.

Migraleve the tone of your post is unhelpful.
Doesn’t seem like the OP is interested in her thread....
It totally depends on the shoe, I expect taking them off by 3 for sure.

Migraleve the only reason i mentioned my sons special needs because the op asked wether a three yr old with no special should be able to do it we are going round and round in circles now and its making me weary lets agee ti disagree.

Special needs .

I simply wondered what X2 was trying to say.

My severely autistic son could put on his shoes at 2 1/2. However, the velcro had to be exactly lined up and we bought 7 years-worth of shoes so that he never knew he was wearing new ones in a new size.

My NT DC2 wore slip ons and needed visual clues to get their shoes on properly even in Y2.

Most 3 year-old children should be able to get their shoes on.

Do I win whatever kind of Top Trumps we're playing?