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Young people deserve better than this

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yoyoyoy · 03/10/2017 13:48

My daughter is looking for her first career type job after finishing University so applied for a job that she felt would make use of her degree . She was called to an interview with them where she was told that a paid role was probably going to be available in the future but in the mean time could she do some unpaid work experience for them for an unspecified period .She told them that she could do a couple of weeks w/e but was unable to commit to any more unpaid work as she needed money to live on , she asked if a paid job was definitely going to happen and on this they were vague . She argued with them that if she committed to unpaid w/e with no end date they had no incentive to offer a paid job . They also told her that weekend work was often required even when on w/e with no mention of time off in lieu so basically 7 out of 7 .AIBU to think that this sort of unpaid w/e is all very well if Mummy and Daddy are loaded but for normal working class kids this is impossible to do ,it seems like cheap labour . Is this just a way to make sure that only the "right sort" of middle class kids get these sort of jobs as clearly not all parents can afford to let their children live rent free for months (I am on a very limited income). I am very upset for her as the job itself (if indeed there was one)seemed perfect for her skills and experience .

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BarbarianMum · 04/10/2017 10:29

Ok well I'm definitely talking about volunteering. My current vol does 2 days a week w me, fitted in around a Masters and a part-time job. She will be very employable in 9 months time, albeit for a poorly paid job.

Cantseethewoods · 04/10/2017 10:51

I think a lot of it is also how its presented. There's a world of difference between "Sorry, we're not recruiting but if you're keen I can give you two weeks of work experience" and what seems to be creeping in which is effectively "If you want a paid role you need to work for free for months and then we'll see if we think you're worth it."

Whilst the blue chip grad schemes are very competitive, at least they tend to recruit based on potential rather than experience and are structured to provide a development path. I'd always advise graduates to get on one of those if at all possible even if it's not their ideal industry.

Lethaldrizzle · 04/10/2017 11:12

Tammy swanson - there is no way you can know that your rival got the job because of wealth and connections!

TammySwansonTwo · 04/10/2017 11:47

lethaldrizzle the editor explicitly told me that they had to hire her really because she'd been working for them for free for months. He told me they'd been advised they had to advertise it but they didn't even interview anyone else (I worked with them and knew other internal candidates so knew it was true).

I'm not saying she got the job because of wealth and connections - she got the job because she was in a position to work for them for free for months on end. That means she probably had a fair amount of money.
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Phalenopsisgirl · 04/10/2017 12:25

My foot in the door was an unpaid internship, I lived at home rent free and worked weekends waitressing to cover spending money/food. I managed, worked hard and got a job offer when one came up, however there were others who didn't. These unpaid jobs are pretty much extended interviews, when a job market is competitive I can see why companies use them. To say that only the rich can persue these careers is pretty untrue, most people can muddle through without charging rent to an adult child, after all what did they do before said child was able to work or will they do once they leave?

Creambun2 · 04/10/2017 12:29

And if your parents dont live a commutable distance to london? Guess you can't just muddle up the cash for them to live there for months hey?

BeatriceBeaudelaire · 04/10/2017 13:19

@DemonBaby I just finished my UG and then PG this summer ... I worked 26hrs a week as a manager, chaired a committee and completed several diplomas at the same time ... I did English Lit. I’ve even been rejected from unpaid work. Get your daughter to apply for AS MANY unpaid internships/w.e as she can .... they don’t give a shit if you worked alongside your degree.

rogueantimatter · 05/10/2017 09:32

Phalenopsis plenty of new graduates don't have families living within commuting distance of employers who offer internships. Your argument that unpaid internships are reasonable for everyone is wrong.

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