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AIBU?

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An Irish person would never say this

379 replies

yodelehoho · 29/09/2017 12:30

"I'm thinking of moving to the north east, where can you recommend"

Neither would a Scottish person, not a Welsh person.

Why do English people seem to think that everything revolves around England? I see this time and time again on Mumsnet. People assuming that "North East" is flipping England.

OP posts:
elisaveta · 29/09/2017 15:07

The original OP complained about the way the English think that everything revolves around England, and then developed this later in the thread to claim that no other nation s/he can think of would do that. If an English person made a rude and sweeping statement about the Irish in that way, a fair few feathers would be ruffled.
And of course every nation has a north east. But it's qualified differently in each nation - so that the Scots for example will refer to North East Scotland. Our region is actually called the North East, so it's fair enough to use the actual name without qualification.

Elendon · 29/09/2017 15:08

it's commonly known as Northern Ireland.

Or Norn Iron.

SpringBreak · 29/09/2017 15:08

Now you see I'd just assume they were moving to Wanstead, and pity them slightly.
#metropolitanpriviligeasserted

No, can't see anything particularly odd about an Irish person referring to the north east of Ireland (as opposed to the oppressed 6 counties etc etc), or an english one referring to the NE of England. Find something else to worry about.

OyyVeyy · 29/09/2017 15:08

🤣@ splendidisolation - "do you realise you're able to develop your own newspapers" - totes!

Elendon · 29/09/2017 15:09

Never eat Tayto cheese and onion on a date. Ever!

splendidisolation · 29/09/2017 15:09

@53rdWay
You've been posting in this thread a fair bit for someone who sees it as a non-issue for prickly people!

HostaFireAndIce · 29/09/2017 15:09

MissBabbs, technically it's in the region called 'Yorkshire and the Humber', but that doesn't mean you haven't. The BBC is just obsessed with London, as we all know, and doesn't know anything about anywhere else Wink

HostaFireAndIce · 29/09/2017 15:10

By the way, do Taytos still come with a little bag of salt in them?

OyyVeyy · 29/09/2017 15:11

Smile enjoying your happiness Thecolonelbumminganugget Smile

Pestilentialone · 29/09/2017 15:11

Map of regions, with names this time. Included both Midlands Wink

An Irish person would never say this
53rdWay · 29/09/2017 15:12

I didn’t say it was a non-issue. I said it did matter.

Okay, once again:

  • it is annoying and can be confusing when people say “the South”, “the North East” etc and expect everyone else to know which one they mean;
  • so it would be nice if people clarified which country they meant;
  • and saying this is not “anti-English”, you ridiculously touchy odd people.
splendidisolation · 29/09/2017 15:13

I mean a lot of good board sites are based in America with a predominantly American user base. Imagine going on there and being like "can everybody start specifying what country they mean because when you say West Coast i think Liverpool and it feels, like, really mean of you and really self centred and I find the whole thing just infuriating and also confusing. I am absolutely outraged, OUTRAGED!!!!!!!!!"

JaneJeffer · 29/09/2017 15:14

By the way, do Taytos still come with a little bag of salt in them? They never did!

geekone · 29/09/2017 15:14

YABU live in Scotland and I would actually talk about the north east and mean Newcastle etc. If I am in Scotland I would clarify maybe by adding England. But it hardly matters just the usual we hate England rant that people out with England seem to loveConfused. Again geek definitely Scottish

HostaFireAndIce · 29/09/2017 15:17

By the way, do Taytos still come with a little bag of salt in them? They never did!

Did they not?! I'm actually horrified about my lack of recall about this. Which were the crisps then that fairly recently (well about 10 years ago maybe) still came with a little bag of salt for flavouring? I realise this is totally irrelevant to the argument.

splendidisolation · 29/09/2017 15:18

@53rdWay

What's confusing about it? So someone writes "me and DP live in the South" and you're like "OMG I thought this poster meant Kilkenny, this changes my WHOLE opinion of the OP and everything I ever thought has turned out to be a lie"?

It's not confusing, it may however be annoying to you, if you happen to have a massive chip on your shoulder. But if you find it annoying you must surely be able to empathise with the prickliness - both are irrational reactions.

Regardless, the bottom line is the thread will gradually vanish and we'll all just go back to the South meaning the home counties etc so basically a pointless argument.

elisaveta · 29/09/2017 15:19

*- it is annoying and can be confusing when people say “the South”, “the North East” etc and expect everyone else to know which one they mean;

  • so it would be nice if people clarified which country they meant;
  • and saying this is not “anti-English”, you ridiculously touchy odd people.*

No - saying that isn't - although it's a little over-sensitive to expect people to have to qualify further when they are using the actual proper name of a specific region.
What is anti-English is the tone taken by the original OP, who started by saying that only the English think everything revolves around them, and developed it further by complaining about how the English are presumptuous as opposed to Welsh, Scots etc. She also complained about the weather forecast referring to the North East and meaning England - yes, because that's the name of that geographical region in England.
Don't really think that the prickliness and over-sensitivity is only one-sided here.

JaneJeffer · 29/09/2017 15:19

I think it might have been Golden Wonder Hosta. Not sure but let's derail the thread Grin

Elendon · 29/09/2017 15:20

I think those were either Smiths or Peri's (perhaps the latter).

elisaveta · 29/09/2017 15:22

Which other countries have the North East as the name of a region?? In Scotland it's called North East Scotland. In Wales North East Wales. In Ireland Midlands East and then Northern Ireland.

HostaFireAndIce · 29/09/2017 15:23

JaneJeffer - maybe that was it! I know that most crisps are called Ready Salted because the salt is put on without you having to shake it out yourself as used to be the case with pretty much all crisps, but there was definitely a relic, wasn't there, where you still got to do it yourself, but you didn't find them very often. I love shaking out that little bag Grin

EndofSummer · 29/09/2017 15:24

I think this is a thread that needs to be derailed...

Pestilentialone · 29/09/2017 15:26

Salt and shake were Smiths crisps and now are made by Walkers.

Grin Bring back Wessex Grin

Jaxhog · 29/09/2017 15:26

Why does it even matter?

rightnowimpissed · 29/09/2017 15:27

PumbletonWakeshaft Correct