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To not understand the sanctification of Hugh Hefner?

125 replies

Yamayo · 28/09/2017 10:21

So dirty old man dies.
This morning I woke up to dozens of tributes. Why??

He wasn't a visionary or a feminist. He played a huge part in creating the whole culture of casual sexism and misogyny of the world we live in.
And when you read accounts of life in his manor as described by his 'bunnies' it is quite frankly sickening.

Why his death treated with such respect?

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metalmum15 · 28/09/2017 12:27

Oh has he finally popped his clogs? Now we won't have to see pictures of him in his vile purple dressing gown anymore.

FrancisCrawford · 28/09/2017 12:41

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user1480334601 · 28/09/2017 12:42

I'm afraid my natural reaction was to mutter good riddance when I heard. Which I admit is a little harsh. But he is the epitome of sexism and was a crusader for female objectification. So yeah, I won't miss hearing about him and how "great" he was. Ugh.

squishysquirmy · 28/09/2017 12:42

VladmirsPoutine But do you consider criticism of Uber's attitudes towards it's drivers to be deeply offensive to the drivers themselves? Because for some reason some people will take any criticism of the sex industry or porn and twist it into criticism of the women, no matter how clearly the criticism is directed at those with the money and power.
I have never noticed this happening in other discussions (like on the rights of Uber drivers for eg).

Pigface1 · 28/09/2017 12:44

Agree OP. He was a fucking waste of skin.

VladmirsPoutine · 28/09/2017 13:06

squishysquirmy Absolutely not. I was agreeing with you.

StealthPolarBear · 28/09/2017 13:07

Well said op

Tobythecat · 28/09/2017 13:23

Surely he was just paying for a service? Women were desperate for fame and fortune, and willingly complied that in order to do this, they would be his play thing. You can be as outraged as you want, but these women knew what they were getting into. Relationships of convenience, there are many of them. Women want the babies/marriage/money, the men want a wife and sex.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/09/2017 13:37

Well, yes, Tobythecat. Which is why I am criticising him, not the women he used.

(I'm also criticising him for using date-rape drugs, for trying to force women into bestiality so he could film it, for not using condoms, for creating a climate of women-as-objects, for fucking very, very young women, just over the age of consent, when he was 50 years older than them, and so on, of course.)

squishysquirmy · 28/09/2017 13:37

Sorry Vladimirs I should have read your posts better!

I would be interested in an answer to my question from those on the thread who think that criticising HH and his attitudes is "deeply offensive" towards the women.

squishysquirmy · 28/09/2017 13:41

"Women want the babies/marriage/money"

I can only speak for myself, but I want to be seen by society as a person in my own right and not a hole to be fucked.

When it comes to his wife being missed out in his will, I suppose that if he were legally able to HH would probably have passed her on in his will. Such was his attitude towards women.

squishysquirmy · 28/09/2017 13:43

I mean he couldn't even bring himself to use a lube that wasn't harmful to women when he fucked them. That's how much he cared.
The dog thing in particular sounds really dangerous for the woman.

Ktown · 28/09/2017 13:48

He pimped out women to Hollywood so they aren't going to have a bad word about him.

VladmirsPoutine · 28/09/2017 13:54

squishysquirmy That's fine. It is indeed a very charged subject!

StealthPolarBear · 28/09/2017 14:05

"Women want the babies/marriage/money, the men want a wife and sex."
Depressing that women who want money assume the answer is a man. Most don't, the answer is to earn it.

BananasAreGood · 28/09/2017 14:10

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WhooooAmI24601 · 28/09/2017 14:11

Ah he was a chiched piece of shit misogynist with a god complex and too much money. If he'd lived in Coventry instead of Hollywood they'd have said "what a pimp wanker" in his eulogy instead of rhapsodising about the deep, deep loss they've all suffered.

AS for being a great LGBT activist, that would be marvellous if he hadn't paired his love of LGBT rights with the degradation of many, many women.

MargoLovebutter · 28/09/2017 14:11

I'm not sure I've seen him sanctified anywhere. He was famous, that's why his death is being reported.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/09/2017 14:21

Suzanne Morre has written about him.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/28/hugh-hefner-pimp-sue-playboy-mansion?CMP=share_btn_tw

ArcheryAnnie · 28/09/2017 14:22

Margot I have been seeing loads of tweets about how he was an LGBT ally, a civil rights activist, a harbinger of the sexual revolution - ugh, no.

MargoLovebutter · 28/09/2017 14:31

I think he was those things at point in his life ArcheryAnnie. He was other things too & that is why he evokes such strong feelings.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/09/2017 15:23

Except he wasn't an ally to lesbians, or bi women - or any women - at all.

MargoLovebutter · 28/09/2017 15:25

Indeed ArcheryAnnie, hence the polarised views about him.

notanotherNC · 28/09/2017 15:27

One less dirty perve in the world. Woohoo.