People who stand outside the entrances of tube/train stations smoking

[TheVoiceOfTreason]

Grrrr.

I don't want to breathe that shit in at the best of times, even less so now I'm pregnant. Its smelly and carcinogenic, and by doing it there they are forcing the rest of us to walk through it and have to breathe it in.

Go and take your vile habits somewhere else where the rest of us can escape from it more easily!!

Am I being unreasonable to think that people shouldn't do it, and that creating a cloud of cigarette smoke outside the station that non smokers have to walk through totally misses the point of the smoking ban?

I agree with you op I don't see why people think other people should breathe in their smoke.

people need to drive to do school runs, get to work etc. Public transport is not an option for everyone for a variety of reasons.

They don't where I live. And if you use the tube I guess your need to drive is limited to the outskirts of London, which is great, because that's not where I live.

Public transport locally is plentiful and I got rid of my car 20 years ago and either walk or use buses, tubes or occasionally taxis. There is hardly any need for private vehicles in central London unless driven by tradespeople providing services for people living here and yet I see them all the time driven by outsiders who find it more convenient and can afford to pay the congestion charge. They'll only stop when it's too expensive and we start calling them anti-social and filthy like people such as you do with smokers, who are far less prevalent and therefore less of a menace.

Now people are bleating about the cost of scrapping their highly-polluting diesel cars. I wish they were banned because they are of no benefit to me and have a detrimental effect on my quality of life. But that's not going to happen because that would be a vote loser. I even have some sympathy for people who bought diesels because they were wrongly encouraged to think they were less polluting.

But my sympathy only goes so far. And seeing as there are fewer smokers about than drivers of polluting vehicles, I know who I think are the bigger villains that we should all be calling anti-social and selfish.

No where near as bad as mobile smokers. You can either
a) abandon your daily tasks and go cower in the back of a coffee shop
B) overtake them, ramming them (and a few innocent bystanders) in the process or
C) follow them breathing their disgusting fumes in the hope of an opportunity to overtake them soon (never going to happen with a buggy is it?)
I would take tube entrance smokers any day.

saddo druggie

Jesus fucking Christ.

While you're moaning about smokers, who are an average 20 per cent of the population, no one complains about drivers, or like the OP, makes excuses for them.

They are far more of a problem. My journey to work is 30 minutes door-to-door by tube. I don't notice smokers cluttering up the doorways; tourists tend to be more of a problem, but we're all tourists at times, so I let it go with a tut.

My walk home is beautiful and in dry weather I always do it. It takes just over an hour. Unfortunately, after about 15 minutes I have to leave the Thames Path, which is sheltered from the traffic by buildings and walk with the river on one side and the nose-to-tail traffic of the northern embankment on the other. On some hot, humid days in the summer I noticed my breathing was becoming laboured and as I said, I don't suffer from breathing difficulties. But I'm sure all those people sitting in their cars to my right thought their journey was vital and couldn't possibly contemplate using public transport.

OP, how long have you been on MN that you don’t know what ODFOD stands for? “Oh do fuck off dear”.

I also repeat - I stand out of the way as much as I can. I move the cigarette away from anyone that could smell it, whether it’s an adult, child or a dog. Yes, I am trying to be considerate to people. And yet, every time someone decides to walk right through it.

I'm less bothered by the smoke, and incensed by the fucking litter. Fag ends and bits of cigarette packet. If it wasn't for the fact they are already condemning themselves to a slow painful death, I'd say a slow painful death is too good for them.

I think some people purposefully walk through it to have something to whinge about. I'm an ex smoker and I remember before the ban came in (I was 17 when it came in si remember the pubs etc). I was sat on a wall outside with my friend smoking about a year before the ban. A woman looked at us and sat her toddler right next to us and said "can you not smoke next to my baby. You need to move". Had she have been polite I probably would have even though she clearly made a beeline for us. I didn't after she was so bloody rude and explained why. She did move after calling us fucking disgusting in front of her toddler. Clearly just a whinger!

There is no law against people smoking outside, therefore they are free to smoke outside tube stations... get over it!

Non smoker here but see no point in whinging about something you can't do anything about.

Yeah LurkingHusband but far more people eat crisps and McDonalds and chuck the free leaflets that fall out of their magazines on the floor than smoke. So complain about litterers or councils who don't employ enough streetsweepers and provide enough bins.

OP I am sure the stress caused by this is probably more harmful than a small bit of smoke. First pregnancy can be stressful, but you'd be better off finding relaxation techniques because just about EVERYTHING in modern life is harmful to the unborn foetus apparently - and if it's not you'll be told to err on the side of caution anyway.

Gum is annoying. Probably chewed by people trying to give up smoking or those trying to contain their gurning coke habit. Do you know how much it costs Westminster Council to blast gum off the pavements? Neither do I, but it's a lot and it's all coming out of my council tax. But that is the price I pay for living amongst other people.

YANBU OP, I'm a former smoker and having to walk past it now makes my stomach heave. Smoke if you have to, but not near entrances.

i used to smoke stoppd not long after th ban but i dont hav a problem with smokers

theyve already been banned indoors what do u want count your blessings it happened

walking down the street your more likely to die from car fumes

saddo druggie

If it wasn't for the fact they are already condemning themselves to a slow painful death, I'd say a slow painful death is too good for them.

I truly don't understand how people become this awful.

a slow painful death, I'd say a slow painful death is too good for them what an utterly disgusting thing to say, you may not like smoking but Jesus Christ you call smokers arseholes.

DeadMorose - I've been on here about 6 weeks I think. Apologies for misunderstanding ODFOD - on another thread a poster put ODFOAD and another poster interpreted it as "oh do fuck off and die" so I assumed that's what you meant. What you meant was obviously slightly less offensive than that.

That said - seriously, your original post wasn't a parody?! I assumed that it was (all the faux outrage about wherever you stand, someone insists on walking right past you, sometimes with their child, whilst you are trying to smoke). You seriously think non smokers getting in your smoking space is something YOU should be doing the complaining about?! And this isn't a parody?!

Wow.

DeadMorose - I've been on here about 6 weeks I think. Apologies for misunderstanding ODFOD - on another thread a poster put ODFOAD and another poster interpreted it as "oh do fuck off and die" so I assumed that's what you meant. What you meant was obviously slightly less offensive than that.

That said - seriously, your original post wasn't a parody?! I assumed that it was (all the faux outrage about wherever you stand, someone insists on walking right past you, sometimes with their child, whilst you are trying to smoke). You seriously think non smokers getting in your smoking space is something YOU should be doing the complaining about?! And this isn't a parody?!

Wow.

Smoking is t banned outside and essentially they are smoking outside. Until there is a complete ban on smoking (not going to happen) then YABU.

Standing outside tube stations and blocking the exit should be a capital punishment offence however.

*isn’t

I don't like this either, but in the absence of designated smoking places along every public highway, I don't know what else smokers are meant to do.

Having said that, I travel all over London via tube and train for work, and have never experienced actually smelling of smoke after I've left the immediate vicinity of a smoker.

I had very sensitive sense of smell when I was pregnant though, and I remember being able to smell where dogs had weed in the park, so that may be a factor.

OP YANBU. This is why smoking is banned. Selfish smokers couldn't "police" themselves so we had to ban it outright.

If only they'd thought, when they were in a bar or other restricted area, I should go outside and not inflict smoke on people who don't want to smoke. They didn't. It's banned. There are some selfish, ignorant smokers who don't give a toss.

Smoking has killed most of their brain cells so they don't understand how their foul smoke impacts on other people.

Or they are just selfish people.

That's more like it. Proper snarling

I have never smoked, think it's disgusting and am pregnant. However i really couldn't give a toss what anyone else does or where they do it short of blowing it in mine or the kids faces! It's a few seconds max!

Also op you need to find a way to relax, the only person who will spoil your pregnancy is you if you don't not the dirty, nasty smokers!

Saddo you are deplorable.