People who stand outside the entrances of tube/train stations smoking

[TheVoiceOfTreason]

Grrrr.

I don't want to breathe that shit in at the best of times, even less so now I'm pregnant. Its smelly and carcinogenic, and by doing it there they are forcing the rest of us to walk through it and have to breathe it in.

Go and take your vile habits somewhere else where the rest of us can escape from it more easily!!

Am I being unreasonable to think that people shouldn't do it, and that creating a cloud of cigarette smoke outside the station that non smokers have to walk through totally misses the point of the smoking ban?

It doesn't miss the point of the smoking ban, but is an unfortunate consequence of the smoking ban. But be grateful we have it at all. It really was vile when you had to share an office with someone who smoked, or when the doors of the tube train opened and a fug of smoke escaped from the smoking carriage you'd been unlucky enough to encounter.

ODFOD

Every fucking time - and I do mean EVERY time - I try to stand somewhere on the side to finish my fag before walking in the station, some fucker decides to walk right past me and through my smoke. And drag their child through it.
Why can’t I just stand on the side where my fag is not going to disturb anyone? Why do everyone wants to walk through my smoke?

Pissing me off.

You will be breathing in a lot more polluted air by travelling by tube, underground tunnels full of train fumes and no fresh air. Unless you are hanging about telling off the naughty smokers standing in the doorways you are not going to be adversely affected in real terms by just passing by them.

'I try to stand somewhere on the side to finish my fag before walking in the station, '
I'm with the pp, smoking in public places should just be banned full stop. Tell me to odfod all you like, but smokers when you are gurning away desperately on your fag non smokers are thinking odfod right back at you. Just smoke at home and use patches or vape if you can't manage while you leave the house.

I don't think you can reason with them, OP. They are addicts and their addiction is their God.

Oh, is it time for the weekly smoker-bashing thread?

YABU.

Of course you can't reason with them. They are being unreasonable, but don't see that they are, and never will. Until they give up smoking.

I don't understand why someone wouldn't want to give up smoking, to be honest.

Ok so your pregnant but what do you think breathing in smoke for five seconds as you walk past is going to do to the baby? The answer is nothing

I don't smoke myself but can't say a smoker smoking outside has ever bothered me and I've never been to any tube station in London and had to walk in a cloud of smoke

I've never smoked. I bear no resentment towards smokers because they don't affect my life. What affects me more are high air pollution rates from traffic. I can't escape it because I live and work in London where not even the congestion charge deters drivers - they just pay it. I'd rather we got on with passing and enforcing laws restricting that than moaning about the vanishingly small number of smokers.

Tali "Could be worse. Could be smoking a joint."

ooh I love it when someone does that in public. i walk slowly and inhale deeply

I'm a non smoker. Where the fuck are people supposed to smoke then?

I can't stand the way things escalate once they are banned. Smoking is a perfect example.
Smokey pubs, offfices, public transport and houses used to be a fact of life and very unpleasant.
So a segregation was enforced, meaning people did not have to sit in such an unhealthy environment - all good. Smokers were sent to separate areas to puff away.
Then the same species - humans - who had managed to largely survive in smokey pubs etc suddenly had a fit of the vapours because they could still smell the smoke from the smoking areas.
So smokers were removed from the buildings completely, and had their own smoking rooms/shelters installed. Non-smokers then complained they could still smell the smoke when doors were opened etc (or at least they did where I worked) so the smoking room was abolished, and smokers were sent to smoke outside.
Now we have complaints from people - who let's not forget, a short while were surviving every day in smoke-filled offices and buses - who seemingly can't tolerate a 5-second waft of smoke as they enter a building.
We are so precious nowadays, and expect everyone to live they way we want them to. Give smokers a break!
PS I am not - and never have been - a smoker, I just get annoyed at the way people are marginalised because they don't do 'the right thing'.

when i used to travel in London 15yrs ago when i blew my nose the contents were black so im guessing regular travel like that is pretty bad compared to the odd bit of smoke you pass from smokers

and im sure the pollution is worse than 15yrs ago

'Then the same species - humans - who had managed to largely survive in smokey pubs etc suddenly had a fit of the vapours because they could still smell the smoke from the smoking areas.'

It's not so much a fit of the vapours, it's more it is now accepted that is is totally antisocial and people shouldn't have to tolerate it anywhere, so yes great smoke filled pubs are a thing of the past but really anywhere there are non smokers people shouldn't smoke.

They should smoke at home only. I know it's an 'addiction' but there's plenty of nicotine things they can use until back in their house

seasidesally I don't get black snot. I've heard it's because you become immune if you live here - it's a visitors' thing. But I had a chest infection about three weeks ago and the struggle to breathe was noticeable. I'm generally in good health but it must be worse for people who do have breathing difficulties. My illness coincided with the release of high air pollution rates in Central London. But you never get threads about traffic pollution and how filthy and selfish people are for wanting to drive their cars where I live. It's always moans about herds of smokers polluting the atmosphere with their filthy selfish habit, even though we're down to a national average of about 20 per cent.

Limitedperiodonly - people need to drive to do school runs, get to work etc. Public transport is not an option for everyone for a variety of reasons. But yes, I fully agree, we need to do more about air pollution generally and London in particular. I had acute asthma growing up and it runs in my family, so it is a real worry for me in case my child inherits my asthma.

As I said above when another poster made the same point about car fumes being a bigger problem therefore I should shut up about smokers - this is my first pregnancy and I'm paranoid about basically anything it is possible to be paranoid about! Most/all of you on here are presumably mum's so hopefully you will remember what it's like being pregnant with your first baby and how you worry about Every. Little. Thing. Some empathy with my current emotional state would be nice!

I don't agree that problem A being bigger than problem B means that I can't comment on problem B though?!

YAY

SMOKING THREAD

Trouble is, my job is in central London so I have no choice but to be there.

And you're worried about walking past smokers? Seriously I work in London two days a week and when i get home and blow my nose, the tissue is black. Smokers are the least of your worries.

MyrtleMaracas - thank you (and others like you) for sticking up for my position. I'm assuming the post by the horrid person above who said "ODFOAD" (oh do fuck off and die?) was, in the main part, a parody...the bit where she told us to fuck off and die didn't sound quite so much like a light hearted parody though! 😳

yanbu
but as you can see from this thread (some) smokers are too lazy and selfish to walk away from entrances to poison themselves.

Snash21 - see my post at 11.13 on this point, I think we cross posted, but as I've already commented on that point twice now I won't repeat myself as it will get dull!

Ah a 'I'm pregnants' starting a smoking thread. My mega happy place! have we had our token asthmatic yet who dies and have a funeral at a whisp of smoke?

ooh I love it when someone does that in public. i walk slowly and inhale deeply

I do with fags, like the fucking bisto kid me . Man I miss smoking.

I really dislike smoking and the smell of cigarette smoke, it's disgusting. However they are outside so they can smoke there if they want to, would be great if smokers could move away from entrances and exits so others aren't forced into their smoke.
But they are sensitive creatures that can't possibly smoke out in the rain or cold so it won't happen

I really dislike smoking and the smell of cigarette smoke, it's disgusting. However they are outside so they can smoke there if they want to, would be great if smokers could move away from entrances and exits so others aren't forced into their smoke.
But they are sensitive creatures that can't possibly smoke out in the rain or cold so it won't happen

See it wouldn't be great because people will still whine about it.

Where did the idea come from that smokers are all sensitive souls they're the ones who only get peace in winter because their regular spots get taken over by the weirdos who like to eat outside in summer.

Smokers are hardened to the elements.

I don't like it, no, the smell is gross, but I remember the days when restaurants and pubs, not to mention offices, stank of smoke. And when trains used to stink as well. So I don't worry too much about people smoking outdoors.

I understand that this being your first pregnancy you will of course worry about all sorts of things, though. Hope it all goes well, OP.