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To think "WTF" and wonder if my character has been assassinated...

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JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 13:25

Posting here because I don't know where else to get it out of my system and I'm shocked, stunned, confused and hurt by a completely out of the blue attack on my personality from someone I hardly know.
I am on the periphery of a social group of folks who meet through a shared activity, some of whom I know better than others. One of these members, with whom I can hardly recall having more than a handful of very bland conversations with and who I know wholeheartedly I have been nothing but civil with started acting quite cold to me last week. I thought nothing of it and when I saw this person today I said hello and asked them how they were. I was not prepared for the response. They came at me aggressively up to my face, angrily contorted, finger wagging and shouted at me, in front of the whole activity group "`never talk to me again. I don't like you, you're rude, insipid (?!) sarcastic and need to engage your brain before you open your mouth". This person then stormed off before I had a chance to respond, leaving me shocked, stunned, and humiliated. So I pursued them and asked them, in as measured a voice as possible to explain what I had done to offend. The reply was the same as the first accusation, no reasons just opinion. And an insistence that I don't come near them, said in a way that made it sound like I was about to attack them. Again this was said in in front of a bunch of others who shuffled around looking embarrassed. I just stated that this person had no right to speak to me like that and walked away, trying to remain dignified.
This is not a stealth post, there will be no further confession later down the thread about anything I ever said to or about this person. I hardly know them and, despite racking my brains, cannot recall any conversation that would portray me in this light. I am utterly flummoxed.
In my opinion this person has always struck me a a bit "highly strung" but I know through mutual friends that they have a lot of problems at home and as a result I have always tried to treat them with kindness and patience. As for "rude" and "sarcastic" there has always been a bit of banter amongst the group which I participate in but I have never had the impression from anyone else (including this individual) that I have ever said anything unacceptable.
I received a message from a mutual friend who overheard the whole sorry incident to ask me what it was all about. They too are clueless. This mutual friend has offered to intervene and enquire as to what the issue is but I'm loathe to get others involved as that never ends well. I kind of want to pull away from the mutual social activity but then I'm the only one that loses out.
I can't help thinking that another individual is involved who dislikes me for whatever reason is behind all this. A few months ago a new member joined the group and has become "besties" with everyone except me (I think the term 'Wendy' has been used here before). All the others are invited to social activities that this person arranges with the conspicuous exception of myself. When others that I am friends with in the group (notwithstanding the two I have mentioned) organise a get together I am frequently included. Again, hand on heart, I have done considerable soul searching and cannot think of any behaviours of mine that would elicit such attitude and, frankly, vitriol. The 'Wendy' strikes me as very needy.
Anyway, so here I am wondering what the feck I have done to deserve this. I can't help feeling something unjustified has been said about me and my character has been smeared. It can't even be a social media thing as today's aggressor doesn't do social media and "Wendy" unfriended me months ago (not that our exchanges were ever anything apart from chat about our shared activity).
The mutual friend that messaged me has given me no cause to think they are involved, in fact they and I are doing an event together tomorrow, just the two of us.
Sorry if I'm ranting, I just need to get this off my chest. I simply don't understand. No direct accusations were made of anything I had done, no reasons given, I was just dressed down very publicly by someone I hardly know. It's not my style to be mean to anyone, I don't see the point. Nobody had ever, ever, accused me of being such in my life before. I'm frustrated because I can't even make amends for some inadvertent slight because I don't know what I'm supposed to have done.
If anyone can make any sense of this or can relate I would be very interested to hear from you.

Thanks for "listening".

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JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 21:42

@Bitoutofpractice the bereaved mutual friend is the instructor in the class! Fortunately she takes other classes which I attend that the aggressor doesn't go to. Maybe I'll just avoid the Friday classes from now on.

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SusanTheGentle · 22/09/2017 21:43

She claims to know nothing and says she doesn't want to get involved

Fair enough as she really does have enough on - but her slip of "doesn't want to get involved" she kind of confirmed that there is something to be involved in.

SusanTheGentle · 22/09/2017 21:44

Bloody hell, ignore me. I'm bloody shit stirring now and I don't even know about any of these people.

I do think someone is being a shit but hold your head high and keep your eyes open and I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of it or it'll blow over.

butterfly56 · 22/09/2017 22:47

The first thing that stood out from your post OP was that this person has loads of problems at home.
Years ago I was on a course to do with my job and it involved people I had never met from various other divisions.

One person completely lost it at this other person for no reason that any others in the group could work out.
Someone stepped in and told her to back off calmly, she carried on shouting and then I suggested we have a break and we all left the room so she no longer could escalate her behaviour.

As the course went along she would lose control for no reason and in the end people just could not cope with it.

I ended up having to defer the course due to work commitments to the following year but tbh I would have found a reason not to stay on that course as she was that bad.

She was highly strung, aggressive, inappropriate comments, had issues going on in her professional and personal life but it was really difficult to empathise as she was such a nasty piece of work.

I would try not to take this too personally as this person obviously thinks she can get away with it and I would not apologise for to her or even waste any more time thinking about her. She's a bully and can control a room full of people with her outbursts.

She's trying to control the group by the sounds of it and bringing the attention back round to her with her inappropriate outburst when someone in the group needed the support.

Don't let it eat you up she is not worth it and these type of people are like emotional vampires...they will suck the life out of you if you let them.

FlowersFlowersFlowers

butterfly56 · 22/09/2017 22:51

Maybe I'll just avoid the Friday classes from now on.

Yes this is a really good idea for your own peace of mind Flowers

JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 23:09

I'm a shift worker and just looked at my roster. Turns out I can't do another Friday class till mid November. Well that's serendipitous. Dignity intact Smile

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guinea36 · 22/09/2017 23:18

Given that the woman said this in front of a group - you could perhaps argue that some of her comments are slander. Perhaps the 'rude' bit at least! It's an extreme measure but could you send her legal letter if she carries on with the crazy or refuses to give a satisfactory explanation? Obviously I'm sure a solicitor, would be able to tell you if that was an option!
Don't let her let you chase you out the group though....

Pallisers · 22/09/2017 23:23

I think she is simply batshit. I'd avoid her and if anyone asks about what happened put on your most concerned expression and say "oh yes X's outburst. It was terribly terribly odd wasn't it. You really never know what goes on in someone's life to cause them to behave irrationally do you. I do hope she feels more normal soon"

Mittens1969 · 23/09/2017 00:17

I'd definitely ask the mutual friend to find out. If it's something this lady has heard about you, then you're best off knowing so you can set the record straight. More people might hear whatever it is that she heard.

She may of course be unwell, but best to know either way, I reckon.

NeedMoreSleepOrSugar · 23/09/2017 00:20

How strange of her! Although as per a pp, I've known someone who would decide she knew what people "really meant". Mostly fairly run of the mill stuff, but sometimes she came up with totally batshit ideas. Never yelled at anyone in the street as a result, but I could see how it could happen!

JamieFrasersMistress · 23/09/2017 10:28

Well here's a turn up for the books. The mutual friend who was supposed to do the event with me today has pulled out at the last minute leaving me high and dry. They've sent me a complex and emotional text citing family reasons but I smell bullshit. Of course the excuses could be true but it's an awful coincidence isn't it.
At least I know where I stand I guess.

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NoodleNinja · 23/09/2017 10:55

This would drive me insane. I'd turn into a batshit stalker trying to find out what the fuck has been said about me.....so don't do that.

I talk/text too much if I am bullshitting someone so I would be very suspicious of your friends text today.

JamieFrasersMistress · 23/09/2017 11:36

My overwhelming feeling in this is sadness and self doubt. Is it me? I lost a nights sleep over it last night, trying to remember and analyse every exchange I'd ever had with this woman to determine if I was actually at fault. Every time I shut my eyes this woman's face with her angry staring eyes appeared in my head. I'm cross with myself for letting it get under my skin. It's not like I don't have more and far better friends elsewhere none of whom have ever accused me of being such a oerson. Clearly I've invested too much in this and need to withdraw.
DH has suggested that I stay away from the fitness class for a couple of weeks and find another pursuit. He says not to tell anyone and not explain myself. If anyone remarks on my absence thrn maybe I can feel safe to return. Silence on the other hand will speak volumes.
Thanks again for all your support. I know that you don't know me and are only hearing my side of the story but I'm trying to be genuine and honest. It's just shitty.

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Madwoman5 · 23/09/2017 11:38

Go and ask her, quite calmly, what on earth the outburst was about. In front of the others. Do not justify, explain or otherwise fuel her own illusion. If she is non specific again, keep asking. If she cannot tell you, then dismiss her "if you cannot be specific about the facts of your accusations, then that sniffs of bullshit and I am surprised and disappointed that you would choose to believe something that has about as much substance as fairy dust and unicorn shit". Then walk away with head held high.

graziemille · 23/09/2017 12:24

OP. I totally know how you feel. A similar thing happened to me. It's very hard to defend yourself when you feel you've done nothing wrong, isn't it.
Hold your head high. The attacker wanted to hurt you and embarrass you and that says more about her than you.
Don't engage her in any conversation about what she did is my advice. You won't win against someone so nasty and will just fuel her fire.
Hard advice to take, I know that. But decent people do not react like she did. Decent people either discuss things or ignore things. It's not as if she'll ever be your friend, nor would you want her to be.
I'm sure you'll find, in time, that she is a repeater of behaviour like this and therefore it was inevitable that someone in your group will be attacked.....she chose you this time, but I can promise you that you aren't the first or last person she's reacted like this too.
XxFlowers

graziemille · 23/09/2017 12:29

And.........I think you're probably just a nice person and she's a bully. Bullies are always, always jealous.
X

everythingsucks · 23/09/2017 12:55

The insipid comment says to me that it is something said behind you back. She didn’t view you as rude and nasty - probably saw you as easy going, inoffensive, people pleasing maybe, pleasant. Twist those when you are angry and you could get insipid. Her huge outburst is because someone has said something claiming you did/said it and she was totally taken aback that you were the unlikely culprit and exploded.

I agree others know. I’ve been in your place op. I knew someone was taking shit about me and people say they won’t get involved but still start forming negative opinions no matter how much you deny all knowledge or protest innocence. You are finding that out today.

I’m sorry OP. It sucks.

If I could redo my experience I’d be angry much faster and call out those ‘not getting involved’ people. I was so bothered about being seen as rational and I knew I was innocent. Fuck that. I would make a big tucking fuss next time and call them out for being shit friends.

Ktown · 23/09/2017 12:58

Unless you post racist comments online it sounds like a huge misunderstanding.
I'd speak to them - they may be feeling stupid now.
I once accused someone of something and was totally incorrect. I apologised and it was fine. They may have just been really foolish.

NataliaOsipova · 23/09/2017 13:08

The insipid comment says to me that it is something said behind you back. She didn’t view you as rude and nasty - probably saw you as easy going, inoffensive, people pleasing maybe, pleasant. Twist those when you are angry and you could get insipid. Her huge outburst is because someone has said something claiming you did/said it and she was totally taken aback that you were the unlikely culprit and exploded.

Completely agree with this. Someone has told her that you have said something very unpleasant about her. She is angry and has thought "I'm going to give her a piece of my mind next time I see her". And that was what the outburst was about.....

Coffeetasteslikeshit · 23/09/2017 13:12

Poor you OP, this sort of thing can drive you mad. Hope you get to the bottom of it.

Oldraver · 23/09/2017 13:15

Looks like you are being Wendied..

Branleuse · 23/09/2017 13:24

Wow. I hope you find out soon. Id find that so upsetting

KeepServingTheDrinks · 23/09/2017 13:30

it all sounds grim. But you sound lovely, so Flowers and hope that either this resolves itself or you find a way to move on.

LilySwamp · 23/09/2017 13:35

Well it looks like you fell in to a humungous nest of vipers there, I’d sod
the lot of them if I was you. As a rule of thumb if the crazies are disturbing your sleep its time to give them a wide berth.
You sound lovely and your DH sounds very wise. Wink
Flowers

52FestiveRoad · 23/09/2017 13:59

Is the fitness instructor (who doesn't want to get involved) running the classes on a self-employed basis? Ie is she running the classes and keeping the fees herself or does is she employed by a company to run them? Because if she is self employed and you take more than one class with her then surely she won't want to lose your custom? By the same token if she is employed could you tell her company what is going on and that you asked the instructor for support as someone in the class was verbally abusive and she refused? I know you are all adults but it is in her interests to keep harmony in her classes or else she may lose her clients.

BTW, is the friend that has pulled out of the event today the same one who was going to make enquiries on your behalf? If so, WTF? Someone has nobbled her for sure.

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