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To think "WTF" and wonder if my character has been assassinated...

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JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 13:25

Posting here because I don't know where else to get it out of my system and I'm shocked, stunned, confused and hurt by a completely out of the blue attack on my personality from someone I hardly know.
I am on the periphery of a social group of folks who meet through a shared activity, some of whom I know better than others. One of these members, with whom I can hardly recall having more than a handful of very bland conversations with and who I know wholeheartedly I have been nothing but civil with started acting quite cold to me last week. I thought nothing of it and when I saw this person today I said hello and asked them how they were. I was not prepared for the response. They came at me aggressively up to my face, angrily contorted, finger wagging and shouted at me, in front of the whole activity group "`never talk to me again. I don't like you, you're rude, insipid (?!) sarcastic and need to engage your brain before you open your mouth". This person then stormed off before I had a chance to respond, leaving me shocked, stunned, and humiliated. So I pursued them and asked them, in as measured a voice as possible to explain what I had done to offend. The reply was the same as the first accusation, no reasons just opinion. And an insistence that I don't come near them, said in a way that made it sound like I was about to attack them. Again this was said in in front of a bunch of others who shuffled around looking embarrassed. I just stated that this person had no right to speak to me like that and walked away, trying to remain dignified.
This is not a stealth post, there will be no further confession later down the thread about anything I ever said to or about this person. I hardly know them and, despite racking my brains, cannot recall any conversation that would portray me in this light. I am utterly flummoxed.
In my opinion this person has always struck me a a bit "highly strung" but I know through mutual friends that they have a lot of problems at home and as a result I have always tried to treat them with kindness and patience. As for "rude" and "sarcastic" there has always been a bit of banter amongst the group which I participate in but I have never had the impression from anyone else (including this individual) that I have ever said anything unacceptable.
I received a message from a mutual friend who overheard the whole sorry incident to ask me what it was all about. They too are clueless. This mutual friend has offered to intervene and enquire as to what the issue is but I'm loathe to get others involved as that never ends well. I kind of want to pull away from the mutual social activity but then I'm the only one that loses out.
I can't help thinking that another individual is involved who dislikes me for whatever reason is behind all this. A few months ago a new member joined the group and has become "besties" with everyone except me (I think the term 'Wendy' has been used here before). All the others are invited to social activities that this person arranges with the conspicuous exception of myself. When others that I am friends with in the group (notwithstanding the two I have mentioned) organise a get together I am frequently included. Again, hand on heart, I have done considerable soul searching and cannot think of any behaviours of mine that would elicit such attitude and, frankly, vitriol. The 'Wendy' strikes me as very needy.
Anyway, so here I am wondering what the feck I have done to deserve this. I can't help feeling something unjustified has been said about me and my character has been smeared. It can't even be a social media thing as today's aggressor doesn't do social media and "Wendy" unfriended me months ago (not that our exchanges were ever anything apart from chat about our shared activity).
The mutual friend that messaged me has given me no cause to think they are involved, in fact they and I are doing an event together tomorrow, just the two of us.
Sorry if I'm ranting, I just need to get this off my chest. I simply don't understand. No direct accusations were made of anything I had done, no reasons given, I was just dressed down very publicly by someone I hardly know. It's not my style to be mean to anyone, I don't see the point. Nobody had ever, ever, accused me of being such in my life before. I'm frustrated because I can't even make amends for some inadvertent slight because I don't know what I'm supposed to have done.
If anyone can make any sense of this or can relate I would be very interested to hear from you.

Thanks for "listening".

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silkpyjamasallday · 22/09/2017 14:11

I agree with @SusanTheGentle I reckon that the Wendier is behind it, doesn't sound like anyone else would bare you any ill will, her excluding you hasn't worked as other still invite you to things, maybe she hopes by baiting this woman into accosting you that you will leave the group.

DistractedByAFatDog · 22/09/2017 14:12

I'd rather have a friend who was rude and sarcastic than one who was insipid.

Apparently you're both so I'm not sure how I feel about you Confused

PollyFlint · 22/09/2017 14:16

I think you definitely need to ask the mutual friend to find out - if I was the mutual friend I'd be dying to know myself. Unless she already knows but doesn't want to say anything.

The person who shouted at you sounds, quite frankly, completely mad. Even if they are justified in having a problem with you, they way they dealt with it was in no way normal. Also I don't think they know what 'insipid' means. Did Wendy turn up in the group after this incident, or before? If it's before, and Wendy also unfriended you on social media, do you think perhaps Wendy took exception to something you'd posted on social media and told Mad Shouty Person about it?! Obviously I'm clutching at straws here...

It is incredible that grown adults are carrying on like this - what on earth is wrong with them? The only time anything like this happened to me, everyone involved was 14.

scampimom · 22/09/2017 14:17

I know someone who thinks she knows what other people are thinking, and then gets really offended and upset by what she thinks they "really" meant by their innocuous comments. To the point of yelling, swearing, lashing out and stomping off.

There is no reasoning with these people. I'd say to your friend, yes, go ahead and see if you can make sense of it - you may find that this yelling woman is like the person I know, you may find that someone has told her something untrue about you which she is justifiably angry about (as if it were true) as she doesn't know you well enough to know it's clearly balls, you may find you said something that, to her, is genuinely awful, or you may find that she is just plain old batshit crazy. Either way, best to know, for your own peace of mind and to make it all absolutely out and open and clear to all that you have not intentionally done anything to hurt anyone.

scampimom · 22/09/2017 14:18

Oh - maybe she meant "insidious" or something? Buy her a dictionary, that should smooth things over and calm her down

FaithAgain · 22/09/2017 14:19

I would suspect that either someone is shit stirring about you or she is mentally unwell. I do think you need your friend to intervene to try to establish what she is upset about.

PickledPoglet · 22/09/2017 14:20

These things are very difficult to move on from as there are no answers but you'll drive yourself crazy trying to understand a person's crazy behaviour.

I'd agree with others that this stems from her own problems.

I once had a colleague erupt at me with no explanation at the time. We had barely spoken before it and had no reason to. It was only months down the line I learned that she and her dad had been in the same restaurant as me at some point without my knowledge, her dad was with his much younger girlfriend and my colleague believed I had smirked at the situation. In fact I had no idea we had ever been in the same restaurant never mind any clue about her dad or his partner. The situation was made all the more unrealistic by the fact that my DH is older than me too!

I never had the chance to tell her she was mistaken but it likely would have made no difference. She'd turned me into a villain in her eyes and that's how it was going to stay. We stayed out of each other's way and it wasn't long before she had moved on to a new drama.

KanyeWesticle · 22/09/2017 14:22

Is she an attention seeking type? j
May be jealous of the attention bereaved friend is getting, and just decided to cause a scene to redirect it.

Flopjustwantscoffee · 22/09/2017 14:27

It might also be entirely unprovoked. I knew someone like this and whilst they were always a bit "highly strung" this then developed into taking quite grudges against people who they would then blow up at, exactly in the way you described actually. It ended with them getting sectioned (at which point they were locked in their house and refusing welfare checks) . Once they were on the right medication they got a lot better. But yes, it might be shit stirring but bear in mind it might also be that this person has internal issues that are nothing to do with the Wendy, or you!

anonymousbird · 22/09/2017 14:33

I think you need to ask mutual friend to discreetly enquire. If there is a misunderstanding/mistaken identity type situation it will only help you both if you find that out. And, if you have inadvertently caused her some distress, then equally, best to know what and why.

squeaver · 22/09/2017 14:38

So, are you going to ask your mutual friend?

sporadicrains · 22/09/2017 14:40

I'd ask two different mutual friends if I were you.

The one who has offered to find out for you may (and I mean there's a faint possibility) be the stirrer behind the shenanigans and know all about it already.
Ask another person who isn't close to the first friend to also do a bit of digging as well.

squeaver · 22/09/2017 14:40

Oh, sorry, just read back to see that you are going to get her to enquire.

Whatever the story is, you need to know what's being said about you.

JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 14:47

I've spoken to the mutual friend. She says she will try and ask but isn't convinced she'll learn anything. So I've said to tell the aggressor if my name comes up that I'm willing to speak to her reasonably and maturely and apologise if that is necessary. I think that's all I can do.
In the meantime, I refuse to let her scare me away from an activity I love doing in spite of her attitude.

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graziemille · 22/09/2017 15:06

Are you a popular member of the group? My guess would be that you are and the attacker is trying to usurp you.

NicolasFlamel · 22/09/2017 15:13

Are you sure you didn't kick her nan or skin her cat and turn it into a thong?

JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 15:26

@graziemille I wouldn't have said so, I'm just a peripheral member.
@NicolasFlamel No I didn't but you've given me some great ideas! Grin

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LittleLights · 22/09/2017 15:33

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toolonglurking · 22/09/2017 19:37

She sounds like she's bonkers, whatever you could possibly have done would not deserve that outburst.
If I were in your position I'd simply have to found out though, it would eat me up inside not to know!

BitOutOfPractice · 22/09/2017 21:20

I find, on these threads, that I'm totally distracted by wondering what the activity is Blush

JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 21:20

Thanks everyone for all your input, unfortunately a day has passed and I'm still none the wiser and yes @toolonglurking it is totally and utterly eating me up inside. I am a ruminator and a brooder by nature and have trouble letting go of these things at the best of times. It probably sounds a bit dramatic but I feel like I've been assaulted.
I spoke to the other mutual friend who, unfortunately, is the bereaved one. She claims to know nothing and says she doesn't want to get involved because she has enough going on already. So now on top of everything else I feel guilty about burdening her.
DH reckons both mutual friends know more than they are letting on.
I really want to be able to let this go but I'm struggling, especially as it's unlikely I'll get a satisfactory outcome. I don't think confrontation is the answer as if I'm being portrayed as this awful bitch then I think the worst thing I can do is act in ways that could be interpreted as "there you go, I told you she was".
Part of me wants to withdraw from the social activity to avoid contact with the aggressor but then the only person who loses out is me.
I can't believe how much this has got under my skin.

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JamieFrasersMistress · 22/09/2017 21:21

@BitOutof Practice. It's a fitness class.

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Paddingtonthebear · 22/09/2017 21:24

Fuck that. I'd be letting that person know that I wasn't not happy about how I was spoken to by them and telling them not to talk to ME again never mind the other way around. What a nutbar. Is the exercise group worth sticking with? Can you find another group. It doesn't seem worth all this shite!

BitOutOfPractice · 22/09/2017 21:25

Dammit op you've ruined the illusion! Wink

BitOutOfPractice · 22/09/2017 21:27

Now that you've said that, I think this woman would have the most massive brass neck to show up next time. Unless she actually runs the class, she's on very dodgy ground to try this shit. She's not bigger than the class.