posted for traffic...can I refuse a SS meeting?

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The circumstances are quite sensitive and identifying so this may be a bit vague.

I've been contacted by SS who want a meeting with me about my DC (over 16 but under 18).

My view is DC are over 16, not at school, not children and therefore don't need child protection. They are suggesting a meeting with me and then me and DC.

Can I refuse? Apart from anything else, I have no annual leave left til Xmas, so if I did meet them I'd be losing a days pay, which isn't great.

Humans not him. Humans just like you. Humans who merit the respect you think you deserve.

Gobsmacked. Truly gobsmacked!

I think you don't want SS turning up because they will see your boyfriend (the convicted person) is staying over. If he is a sex offender he may be after access to your children. Do not let love blind you. Sex affenders are usually very manipulative indeed.

Ohtheroses are you ok??

On the roses ... try not to get too angered by wording on this thread. Its a forum so words like kids etc might get used here but not in a formal report.
When it comes to our children the stakes are high.
You come across as you've a strong protective mother bear stance x

Otherwise I'm highly confused when did kids become offensive I call my own kids kid!!

How many people are stressed to bursting point by the conduct of Social Workers? ]
Socal Workers do make mistakes but the cover ups are outrageous.
I have seen how ridiculous the statements they make are and still they cant get it and now we are being told they get PTSD. They give just as much or more

queen I don't think the idea of seeing children in school was the problem, it was more the reference to "possessions". The problem is also that whether or not something is treated as section 47 comes down to the good judgement and experience of the sw. There is inevitably more room for error in cp sw compared to other professions, such as the medical profession, and there is also less accountability, I think. It must be a very difficult job to do.

A s.47 investigation can only be agreed in a multi agency forum, it's not the SW sole decision...

Summer actually we don't call it - team managers call a sec 47 or the multi agency hub does if it's not a child already known to us.

Since the majority of abuse against children is perpetrated by someone known to the child there are good reasons for seeing children immediately and at school. If it's sexual abuse or a non accidental injury a school visit is standard practice.

I won't and don't apologise for my profession.

Apologies. I don't hear doctor's being described as "docs". They are afforded the respect of their title and not generally addressed by their first name. Nurses are not generally referred to in writing as "Nurse". MH registered nurses introduce themselves as nurse x. The social worker who called me introduced himself as Mr A.. And called me "mum", first name and surname with no title. I'm not seeing a pattern of respect here.

Why should the D'S types be afforded respect when they afford none in relation to caring parents who fund their "service".

It makes me very cross that respect appears to be a one way street in favour of the authorities. I say that as a person of privilege so what the chuff must the attitude be like for more vulnerable people.

And please don't ever refer to children as kids. It is slang. It isn't professional and as a human I gave birth to children not goats. I know it's hard for public sector health related personnel to work towards the highest common denominator but honestly when you want to get dictatorial it might behave you better to demonstrate that you respect people a little.

what's wrong with calling children kids? I don't see the problem?

Behove not behave.

Well this has turned out quite nasty as predicted. I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of clarion call "someone's having a pop at social workers over here, time to pile in"

Daily mail cherching

www.dictionary.com/browse/kid

Oh the roses you appear to be making judgements about all social workers based on your experience - or at least that's how it is coming across. You clearly had a terrible experience and that was not OK however that does not mean that every sw does all of the things you are saying. I've read hundreds of sw reports and never once seen the word 'kids' or parents referred to 'mum' or just first name when others are not.
I would happily however use the word kids casually in my every day speech with friends or on the Internet about my own and others' children and don't think that is a problem.

The child has had no time to be prepared by the parents, the parents aren't there so aren't fully aware of what has been said
Don't you think that's the point? If SS phoned a parent and said "we believe that your partner has been abusing your child, so we're going to speak to your child tomorrow", the parent could prepare their child by saying "if you tell the social worker what X did, you'll get no dinner for a week" and then sit in on the meeting to ensure the child lies. I, for one, am glad that SW are able to talk to teenagers without their parents.

It isn't an informal, chummy relationship is it though. It's a foŕmal relationship in which the proper words should be used.

that ^ was just in response to Summer, I'm not saying that's what happened/would happen with OP.

Yes exactly. The word kids shouldn't be in a report and I've never seen that happen. However it is a word that I would use in other informal situations

@OhTheRoses, I don't think kids is a slang term anymore. It did use to be but it's become the word people use these days, so there isn't much point in complaining about it. (I wonder if some people even know it's the word for a baby goat anymore??)

You may as well complain about the word gay no longer meaning happy anymore!

I'm also not all that impressed with social workers' reports, though, often the grammar and punctuation leave a lot to be desired!

Really Eammon why don't you pop off to ratemysocialworker.com and hang out with the rest of the vigilantes, ptretending you're hard whilst hiding behind a keyboard.

I'm not getting into this any further as Queenifthedrivensnow quite rightly pointed out, this thread has the Daily Fail written all over it.

I just came back to check if the op has been back and I see she hasn't. I hope she makes the right decision.

I'm finding Eamonn quite threatening but I don't know how to report posts on the app