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Who was being unreasonable here?

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ScottishSue · 15/09/2017 23:55

Background: I work in my local primary school as a part time midday supervisor and have done for a couple of years (earning a tiny amount of money). Over the last year I have also been doing a distance learning course, training to be a level 3 teaching assistant specialising in SEN, and have done all my practical work in the same school. So since January I have done one full day every week in school (totally unpaid), assisting the teachers in whatever ways I am needed - I ask for very little in return, just for the teacher I work with to read through and sign the practical written work I have done. Prior to starting the course, I also volunteered one morning a week listening to children read and had done that continuously for 5 years. I have also volunteered in many other ways over the years - school trips, summer and xmas fairs, helping with craft or sports activities, etc.

School term started last week and I knew there was a whole school day trip to a local event planned for this week and I volunteered as a helper for that on top of my usual day in school. I made it clear from the start that I would be happy to do this if I could support one of the children with additional needs as then that would also help me with the section of the course on SEN on a general experience level. This was understood and accepted at the time by the Head. On the day in question I arrived and went out to the coach with the class that included the child I thought I would be supporting but just before I got on board, I was told by the Head that I was needed with a different class - one with no SEN children - and to get on the other coach. I was a bit taken aback and said, 'But the plan was that I was supporting X...' and she told me that X had enough support already, that the other group needed an extra adult, and that she had thought I was coming along in order to help them out? This last comment in particular said quite angrily and all was said in front of other staff members.

I had always had a good relationship with and huge respect for this person (and had thought the respect was mutual) and this felt high handed and uncalled for - as if I was only in it for what I could get and was being given a telling off for having a bad attitude. I understand that adult to child ratios must be carefully worked out and that changes may need to be made on the day. If she had said - sorry, it's not going to work as we had planned - do you mind going with the other group? - that would have been fine. I would have been disappointed at a lost opportunity but accepted it.

I'm not very resilient when it comes to people being angry or unkind to me without just cause and it upsets me a lot. I know that sounds pathetic and some people are going to think that I am but there we are. She hasn't apologised since then and I admit I have avoided her because I don't know how to handle it. I will usually go out of my way to put things right but at the moment I just don't have the emotional wherewithal to do that, as I'm going through a period of high anxiety related to difficult family circumstances.

So who was being unreasonable? And what do I do now - forget about it? Try to talk to her about it? Send her an email/letter (because the idea of talking to her face-to-face about it gives me the fear...)? I'm really unsure about posting this because I know some people will think I'm being utterly pathetic and will happily tell me so but hey, we're all different and we have to work with what we've got. So here goes...

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newdaylight · 17/09/2017 19:01
Flowers

All the best for the rest of your training

Newmanwannabe · 20/09/2017 03:48

Well done. It's a big learning curve studying. In all different ways.

Pengggwn · 20/09/2017 07:12

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RickOShay · 20/09/2017 07:19

Completely agree with Peng. The head was rude, and I think the op is justified in feeling how she does. YANBU

MissBabbs · 20/09/2017 07:25

It sounded to me as if the head had already. been annoyed or wound up by an evevnt or someone's. behaviour before you appeared on the scene,
Then was abrupt with you as she was forced because of this, to make changes to the plans.
So it could be nothing to do with you at all although an apology would have been nice.

Mittens1969 · 20/09/2017 07:59

I'd have probably been taken aback by her response, OP, but then I don't volunteer for school trips because I can't think of anything worse lol.

Having said that, my DD1 is a SEN child and she gets very attached to the TAs who work with her. I can imagine that if she was expecting to be on the coach with a particular TA that she knows she might be upset about the change herself. She's cooperative at school though (not always at home) so she wouldn't have made a fuss about if. But she doesn't cope well with change.

I would have said to her that sometimes it can't be helped, though, because there are a lot of children to look after on the school trip. But it was possibly not just the OP who was upset about it.

Italiangreyhound · 21/09/2017 04:19

OP good news, hope things will work out well.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/09/2017 05:16

Schools are constantly full of change. If children aren't going on the trips at my school, other teachers need to take them into their class. I took in three year 6 children at no notice because they weren't going on their trip. I just had to deal with it.

We have parent helpers decide on the morning of trips that they don't want to come anymore and they don't bother telling us. This is really stressful and involves a lot of running around, trying to find adults.

I know it doesn't make it better, but the head was probably extremely stressed. For people who cope with really important things and manage a lot of people, it is often the little things that finally push them over the edge. And volunteers are more stressful than paid staff because they don't have to be there so might choose not to be/don't know how the school runs as well as paid staff.

OP, it sounds like you already haven't I would just move on. Trips turn even the nicest of people into stress-induced monsters.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/09/2017 05:19

*have not haven't.

OhThisbloodyComputer · 21/09/2017 06:00

I understand how you feel ScottishSue,

You have put lots of work in and now you feel your devotion and sacrifice is taken for granted. (That's my understanding of the situation anyway, because I've been a similar situation).

The only thing I can think of is that the other person was stressed by the logistics of organising lots of people and bringing all the strands together at once, so probably forgot to recognise your contribution. (Because she or he was probably in a hurry and worried about other priorities)

Please don't take it personally. people have bad days and it wasn't a criticism of you.

It's really decent and selfless of you to help other people. You sound like one of the unsung heroines whose contribution goes unrecognised.

Well, i can see it and I wish I could do more than just admire you from afar. Keep going, you're doing a wonderful job and try not to take other people's short comings personally.

CamperVamp · 21/09/2017 08:09

The Head was abrupt, but in the end the school / Head's responsibility and priority is to the children, not your professional development.

She could have said 'oh, sorry, it didn't work out like that, would you mind if...' but in the moment she didn't.

Hard to know why. Maybe she was under stress, remember that just as you felt exposed because she said it in front of other staff your question / challenge to her was likewise in front of others. She may have had other parents arguing about who they got put with....

Yes, she dealt with it rudely. But as others have said, that happens!

And have a read through your OP with your martyrdom-detector switched on.

Lots of people doing study fund it hard to find supportive placements.

Good luck in your course, eyes forward.

Sayyouwill · 21/09/2017 09:01

It's really decent and selfless of you to help other people. You sound like one of the unsung heroines whose contribution goes unrecognised.

I think that's stretching it quite a bit.
OP wasn't volunteering out of the goodness of her heart or else she wouldn't have minded which coach she was on. If she was doing it for the good of others or to help the school she would have hopped aboard the other coach with no problems. She was volunteering to tick off a box on her study list. She was unreasonable to expect the trip staffing arrangements to be fixed around her. She made a request. It was not formally agreed to. Therefore a request is just a request and unfortunately on this occasion her request was denied. It happens. That's life. Making a big song and dance, saying she's being taken for granted, that she was hard some to by etc etc is just silly.
She volunteered for very selfish reasons.

OhThisbloodyComputer · 21/09/2017 10:37

SayYouWill,

That's a bit harsh, surely.

She does volunteer. I wouldn't say for selfish reasons (how would I ever know as I don't know her. It's impossible to second guess someone else's motives.)

Having said that, I like to think she volunteers out of public spiritedness.

I volunteered for something where this bloke who had to mentor me was a complete pain in the arse. It was all about him. Even social conversations were competitions. if I said I'd been to tenerife, he'd been to Elevenerife. Type of bloke who thinks he knows what you're going to say, so he jumps in and finishes off your sentence for you - only he gets it wrong. He was a man that liked the tiny bit of power invested in him and it went to his head.

Although that may be completely different in this case

Anyway, have a lovely day. I should really be working now.

Sayyouwill · 21/09/2017 12:51

@OhThisbloodyComputer OP literally says that she was going to gain experience for her course and to contribute to her studies. Therefore she wasn't going out of the goodness of her heart to help the children. It was selfish. Being selfish or having selfish motives isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes it just means that you are putting yourself first which is fine to do every now and then. In this case, OPs motives were selfish. She wanted to further her studies. She was presented with a great opportunity to do so which didn't pan out. These things happen!

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