to think McDonalds is expensive?

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I mean great for a quick, cheap on-the-move treat .

But you get a tiny bit of meat with your burger and unless you stuff yourself with chips and ice-cream on top, are hungry 30 minutes later.

I've just made a delicious huge burger for lunch at home, with lovely seedy bun and big salad, probably for less than £1. [NoMrWhippyThough ]

Very few independent cafes will do a meal with a drink for under a fiver. Or supermarkets. I've just paid over £6 in Morrisons.

If anyone is ever buying chicken nuggets because even though it is nearly £3 for 6, you can have 20 for about £4.50. I usually eat 10 and save the rest for the next day or freeze them. Buying 2 x 6 is a silly way to buy them.

It is really awful food though so we don't take dd often.

No worse than the crap served up by other cheap cafes and fast food outlets. You're in a completely different price bracket if you want top quality or fresh food.

McDs is well cheap compared to Burger King, they're sooo expensive and taste shit!

I pity the people saying McDonalds is good quality. I guess it's a matter of education.

Look at the salt and sugar content, the preservatives, the saturated fat. Look at the bread or the cheese in their sandwiches, or the mechanically separated chicken in the nuggets - how is that good quality!?!

There's so much sodium in most of McDonald's food that I used to get symptoms of dehydration shortly after eating it, even if I'd had a drink! God knows what damage it does to the insides of little kids.

Sorry Mary, I still don't understand. Could you explain how a 100% beef burger made at home is any different to a 100% beef burger made at McD's. I feel I must be missing something.

I pity the people saying McDonalds is good quality. I guess it's a matter of education

As in, you need to educate yourself about what is in McDonalds food?

here's so much sodium in most of McDonald's food that I used to get symptoms of dehydration shortly after eating it, even if I'd had a drink!

No you didn't. You may have imagined that since your prejudices are so strong that you convinced yourself, but there isn't much salt at all and you couldn't possibly have had any actual symptoms.

People do talk such shit.

Lots of defending of McDonald's here. Could it be through guilt after thoughtlessly feeding it to your kids?

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No, just defending facts. Are you feeling guilty for feeding your children your horseshit and your inability to actually use facts?
You should.

Sorry Mary, I still don't understand. Could you explain how a 100% beef burger made at home is any different to a 100% beef burger made at McD's. I feel I must be missing something.

It's the bread, with its additives and preservatives, and everything else that comes with the burger. It's the fries, fried in trans fat. It's the sugar-rich drinks.

If your kid's only eating plain beef patties then you'd have a point.

You think the bread has so much salt you were dehydrated after eating it? Unless you ate 20 burgers, you're talking nonsense.

No, just defending facts. Are you feeling guilty for feeding your children your horseshit and your inability to actually use facts?
You should.

You sound very defensive.

How do you know what I've fed my children?

I endow my children with the ability to consider evidence and judge things for themselves. Facts are the most valuable thing to feed them.

Speaking of which I notice you haven't effectively refuted any of the scientific evidence or specific claims I've provided.

You think the bread has so much salt you were dehydrated after eating it? Unless you ate 20 burgers, you're talking nonsense.

Read back - I had symptoms of dehydration after eating a McDonalds meal, not just the bread. Which is a common occurrence if you care to read any kind of factual sources. Have a look at the link I posted.

Lots of defending of McDonald's here. Could it be through guilt after thoughtlessly feeding it to your kids?

No, my children have never had it. Like I said, I have it maybe twice a year at a service station on the way to visit a friend... my children don't come.
I'm not 'defending' it, I just think a) no it's not expensive and b) I don't see how a 100% beef quarter pounder for example leaves people hungry an hour later.

it's the sugar rich drinks

I have Coke Zero, which I realise is devoid of any nutritional value but isn't 'sugar rich'. Most of the kids I see with happy meals have water or a fruit shoot. Again, fruit shoots aren't fantastic but they're no different to the fruit shoots served at other eateries. They're not worse because they're from McDonald's.

The link you posted is both biased,and crucially, AMERICAN. You do realise that the food in Europe is completely different to the US, I presume? Lower in salt and sugar, far fewer additives, higher quality meat. Not even comparable.
You might want to try actually learning something before lecturing others.
Maybe your dehydration was just a lack of avocado and chai latte?

I know Ecureuil, you said the same thing three hours ago. I was talking about more recent posts, which seem to be in denial.

The link you posted is both biased,and crucially, AMERICAN. You do realise that the food in Europe is completely different to the US, I presume? Lower in salt and sugar, far fewer additives, higher quality meat. Not even comparable.
You might want to try actually learning something before lecturing others.
Maybe your dehydration was just a lack of avocado and chai latte?

Well I'm American, so it's relevant to me.

I take my 4 year old to McD's every Saturday. He has a happy meal with nuggets (which he never eats) and some fries and a fruit shoot. He has a great time filling up the little pots of sauce and getting the straws and napkins ready. He then plays about on the Ipad thingy before shooting off to get a balloon. Normally the floor assistant also give us crayons and a sheet of paper.

He has a great time and if I have a burger it costs us less than £4.00

If anyone thinks that's bad, well *

Mary, I guess I could be seen as 'defending' McDonalds on this thread.

I can honestly say that I have bought my kids McDonalds a maximum of three times. I say a maximum of, as one of those times I think was Burger King.

No guilt here!

The beauty of McDonald's is that anywhere you go you are likely to find one. You will know what to expect and will almost assuredly not be disappointed. The price will likely be at least close to what you expect. The items you are used to will be offered.

McDonald's requires of its suppliers and franchisees strict adherence to spec, so the food will be safe and the facilities will be hygienic.

MaryMcCarthy There is very little sugar in McDonald's food (and you can check the actual amount on their website as they have a nutritional calculator). High sugar comes from the fizzy drinks, which can be easily avoided.

Take for example, a nuggets happy meal; it's our most popular happy meal. Four nuggets, small fries and a bottle of water is 0.7g of sugar; that is exceptionally low.

You need to educate yourself on their food, because what you're coming out with is nonsense. There's no processed meat or bits in any of it; it's all 100% meat and very good quality meat at that too.

And no, I don't have children so no "guilt" over taking them there. If I did have children, I would happily feed them McDonalds in moderation, just like anything else.

@alltouchedout Sorry, only just seen you replied to my tubes comment. I think I was trying to block out the thought of the tubes. I fear that yes, they are veins or those other things like veins. Barf

I've never ever seen "tubes" or anything remotely similar in a BK burger, or any other burger!

Dahlietta I don't work at Burger King nor eat there so I can't comment on their food. I can only say you don't get that at McDonalds

Last time I went to McDonald's to meet up with a friend, we stayed too long as it was a quiet day and we were chatting. We both got a £100 fine for staying too long in the carpark - now that's expensive!