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Night before c-section, DH spends night cleaning with MIL?

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papercoversrock · 12/09/2017 22:58

This has been bugging me on and off, so I thought this was a good place to ask AIBU...

At 39 weeks pregnant, I had a complication (transverse lie) and ended up one day at 4pm, booking a planned c-section for 8am the following morning.

It was to be our first child and my first time in hospital. I was worried, nervous, happy, excited, the lot.

If my husband had asked me what I wanted and needed to do that night, I would have said spend one last quiet night together before the shit hit the fan! Eat an easily-digested meal reasonably early. Talk together. Get excited together. Get an early night.

But he didn’t ask me.

The second the surgeon left the room, my husband (36yrs old) was on the phone to his mum, asking her to come over and help him clean.
And she did. Between the pair of them, they cleaned the house from top to bottom.

Yes, the house had got somewhat messy (He works a lot and I worked until 8 months pregnant, and by then was exhausted the whole time.)
But it was by no means squalor, and nothing DH and MIL did was necessary for our son to be safe and healthy. I could have gone into labour any time, and brought my new baby home to a safe environment.

Just as an example of how OTT it was, MIL took home bags of laundered and organised baby clothes to re-wash (all bundled together into a bin bag, annoyingly) and bags of toys to steam clean - most of which were for 6 months plus. They cleaned in the toilet and spare bedroom that DS was unlikely to be in for days, weeks, even months. At one point, I had to dive in and prevent her from taking away my (washed and folded) pyjamas and maternity pants that I wanted to wear in hospital!

If DH had said “I feel a weird need to clean with my mum until 11pm, so if you want food and company, maybe you should call someone else” I might have felt hurt, but at least I would have been prepared.

As it was, he kept nipping in every hour or so and saying “Won’t be too much longer.”

His mum’s lovely, and I didn’t want to hurt her feelings or make a scene, but I don’t feel completely at ease around her and didn’t want her there at that moment. I just wanted to relax and speak freely in the company of my husband.

Toward 9 pm I took DH to one side and said “You have to stop now. The house is fine. This is too much. Your mum has to go home. This isn’t what I want.” I was crying and he took my shoulders and said “We’ll be finished soon, don’t get upset.”

At 11pm, DH’s mum finally went home. I then got angry with DH for leaving me hanging on for 6 hours at such an important time, and he threw a bag of “washing” (the one containing my clean maternity pants that I’d saved) down on the floor and shouted “Who do you think I’m doing this for?” Then I quietened down (couldn’t face a fight the night before an operation, so just swallowed it and breathed deeply) and we went for takeaway pizza as nowhere else was open.

I finished eating about 20 mins before the midnight deadline. We went home and up to bed. I was stressed and couldn’t sleep. He was tired and started snoring almost immediately!

Weeks afterwards, no matter how carefully I brought it up, he still wouldn’t have it that he did anything wrong, and I made him angry when I mentioned it, so it was easier just to stop mentioning it.

But it’s stayed with me. It was such a vulnerable time for me, and such an important moment for us both, and frankly I felt like my feelings were inconsequential to him.

How would you feel in my place? I mean, he wasn’t out gambling away our house or banging his secretary or anything. But still, I don’t feel like what he did was ok.

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QueSera · 12/09/2017 23:57

But he was doing it FOR you. FOR the new baby. Maybe he didnt go about it the exact right way or act entirely perfectly - but to me it seems like nice, thoughtful, considerate behaviour. I dont think you should be angry with him at all. He sounds like a nice man.

ARGCvet · 12/09/2017 23:59

It's weird, isn't it DollFace - very Stepford ish somehow.

ARGCvet · 13/09/2017 00:00

X-post. Sigh.

gillybeanz · 13/09/2017 00:00

He's an arse for not considering your feelings, and for getting so angry, lacking any sympathy.
However, my mil wouldn't have been anywhere near at such a time as I'd have let my feelings be known.
As bad as your dh sounds you could have said what you wanted, it sounds like you had it planned but forgot to tell your dh.

CallMeDollFace · 13/09/2017 00:16

I think it sounds like op has to be careful what she says to her dh actually.

Quite, ARG

papercoversrock · 13/09/2017 00:17

ARGCvet Thank you. What you said is exactly what I think!

But it's fair enough that a lot of people sympathise with my husband and I should give some time and thought to that, too.

And thank you DollFace It's not easy to explain a pattern in a single post! I picked what for me was the worst example - because I was so vulnerable and he was so angry when he should have been nice.

Maybe the relationship board is a good idea.

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CallMeDollFace · 13/09/2017 00:23

I think so, op. You will get good support and advice. Yes, consider both sides, but remember: The people we love should be nice to us and we shouldn't have to watch what we say around them. Panics and flare-ups happen, but we apologise quickly and with feeling.

Hope you get to make sense of things. And enjoy your little dc Smile

Shadow666 · 13/09/2017 00:24

Yes, OP he was cleaning for YOU because cleaning is your job and you should be so grateful that your MAN, an actual man, cleaned. It doesn't matter if you were heavily pregnant or unwell there is still no excuse for letting your house get into that state. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. Your husband is a good man because he cleaned and that is a woman's job. It doesn't matter that he shouted at you, left you alone and hungry. You're being really selfish to expect food and consideration. Now stop being such a whingey cow and go and get his slippers and pipe and give him a blow job to show how grateful you are that he a MAN cleaned.

Or something like that... Hmm

NoMudNoLotus · 13/09/2017 00:26

You sound really ungrateful.

The days weeks before birth are never how the films portray .

I feel sorry for them tbh.

CallMeDollFace · 13/09/2017 00:29

Ungrateful???

He shouted at her. Ignored her feelings. He and his mother cleaned the house for SIX hours. Mil took bin bags of CLEAN clothes home to wash again. Op can't bring this up again without her dh becoming angry.

Ungrateful!

over40andpregnant · 13/09/2017 00:33

I get it upsets you
But really in the grand scheme of things it's done now so what do you want from discussing it now
Him to admit he was wrong

I really think you should let it go
For your own well being

Mildred007 · 13/09/2017 00:33

It sounds like he was well meaning in his actions but his support to you was misplaced and he probably should've just listened to you. I can understand why you would be upset by it.

When I was in hospital for 3 days after having my third DD, my partner decided cleaning the house to make sure it was nice for me when I got home seemed to be more important to him than actually coming to visit me more than once. Then when I get home with our new born baby to our other 2 DDs he realised he hadn't done any shopping so dropped me & baby off and went food shopping leaving me to try to cook tea for our DDs whilst eager family turned up to visit! I'm still annoyed when I think about it but I do realise he did mean well, just not great at multi-tasking or thinking lol!

Try to let it go as it can't be undone now and enjoy being a family.

Congratulations to you both on the birth of your baby! Flowers

MsGameandWatching · 13/09/2017 00:34

I feel sorry for them tbh.

Why? Confused.

MistressDeeCee · 13/09/2017 00:35

Bloody hell...the man made a mistake some posters would have you going into full blown argument mode! I think what he did was wrong - but sorry, not akin to pissing off out round to his mum's or to a mate's!

I also think he panicked. If you can't get around this OP maybe a known third party or brief counselling - as you keep on raising it with him and you are both angry/upset still. He thinks he did something good, you think he did something bad. But you are 2 different people. Either way only you know the ins and outs of your relationship and it sounds worth aiming to resolve, certainly not a deal-breaker

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/09/2017 00:39

The first lot of things, fine. They were trying to be helpful and kind and didn't think. Whatever.

But the two HOURS after you asked him in tears to stop? Having not eaten and having to have major surgery the next day? WTF?

It really does seem like people have incredibly low standards for partners on here. Just because he cleaned he gets a pass on any other form of consideration. And thank goodness my MIL would never have behaved in such an insensitive way. She always asked what I needed. She was lovely.

sophiepotato · 13/09/2017 00:46

The trouble with posting about an isolated incident is that people interpret it through their own experiences.

My DH is generally lovely but has at times from my perspective got things wrong when I needed a particular type of support. Not because he doesn't care about me but because he's human and makes mistakes. Sometimes it's taken him months to understand why the way he reacted to certain situations made things worse for me. On the whole though he does his best to listen to and respect my feelings.

If my DH had done this I would have been angry but I would have known it came from a place of love (even if bonkersly misguided) and I would probably have been able to let it go. It sounds your situation is very different and this may be part of a pattern of your DH riding roughshod over your thoughts and feelings which is a totally different thing.

You should be able to express how he made you feel without having to bring it up carefully and having him react angrily anyway. You should certainly not have to feel grateful for the invasion of your MIL cleaning your house for you. I love my MIL but could not tolerate her invading my home in that way and would be pretty angry and upset if my DH thought it was necessary - our home is OUR responsibility to keep clean and tidy not anyone else's.

CallMeDollFace · 13/09/2017 00:47

I'm not suggesting they argue about it. I'm hoping the op might benefit from unpicking what might actually be going on here.

Maybe she's married to a neat freak who gets it from his mother?

Maybe she has a lovely caring husband who cleaned the house for her (!!) when she was heavily pregnant?

Maybe she has a quite controlling dh who doesn't really consider what she wants or needs to be very important and shuts her down with anger when she pipes up...

SelkieQualia · 13/09/2017 01:04

This was a classic man reaction to an impending baby. They tend to feel the need to do something active to prepare.

papercoversrock · 13/09/2017 01:07

Thank you MrsTerryPratchett.

I just want to say a word for my MIL. She is genuinely nice and her son asked her to help, so she helped. I don't think she was being insensitive at all.

But yes, I was in tears when I asked my DH to stop with the cleaning. I needed to eat something and go to bed at a reasonable time before having major surgery. And I really wanted his company, too. He told me to wait and I waited 2 hours. I'm glad that you can see it. Thank you.

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Pallisers · 13/09/2017 01:09

I would have been angry with him (have had 2 scheduled c-sections). And I would be still angry because he seems to have refused to acknowledge your point of view. And let's face it - you were the one 9 months pregnant. You were the one about to have abdominal surgery and deliver a baby the next day. What you wanted should have been more important that what he wanted - just for those few hours at least.

Am also slightly amazed at your MIL. Mine wouldn't have dreamed of doing this in our house without making sure I - not just DH - was absolutely ok with it.

Pallisers · 13/09/2017 01:10

This was a classic man reaction to an impending baby. They tend to feel the need to do something active to prepare.

And his wife - also and more intimately involved in this impending baby event - felt the need to have her husband have dinner with her and chill - but she was ignored. What he felt the need to do was more important.

I'm sure he is lovely in other ways and this is just a blip in an otherwise nice relationship but it is still ok for the OP to be upset.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/09/2017 01:11

Mine wouldn't have dreamed of doing this in our house without making sure I - not just DH - was absolutely ok with it. That's why I think it was insensitive. Although I suppose that depends on how you and your DH communicated with her.

oldlaundbooth · 13/09/2017 01:13

I just can't believe the MIL was available for such a long time, at such short notice to do an impromptu deep clean of the house Confused

papercoversrock · 13/09/2017 01:28

I'm grateful for the range of responses, thank you all. I should go to sleep to be up with my (happy, healthy) little man in the morning. I do count my blessings. It's just a thing I wanted to ask about. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.

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WhoWants2Know · 13/09/2017 01:32

My husband behaved in a when I was in labour with my second DD and he ended up shouting at me while I was crying and in pain. That night ultimately led to the end of our marriage, because it was a stark example of him putting his own needs first and becoming angry when I was most vulnerable. It's just not how you're supposed to treat someone you love.

In my case it was part of a much larger pattern of behaviour on his part, but I could never get past it. Hope it turns out better for you OP.

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