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Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

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ThaiRedCurry · 11/09/2017 22:07

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

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orlantina · 11/09/2017 23:31

We are talking about boys wearing skirts and dresses and it being considered accepted

So - if a boy wants to wear a skirt and people like you tell him that only girls wear skirts, then in a young mind, that makes him think he must be a girl?

So you are part of the issue by reinforcing gender, aren't you?

NYConcreteJungle · 11/09/2017 23:32

Maybe they fee l their child is be bullied by school staff. If they take someone telling lies seriously, the child will be upset and concerned for his soul to call a boy a girl if he believes it's not true.

BusyBeez99 · 11/09/2017 23:32

No hopefully he will realise how daft he looks

buttonhead101 · 11/09/2017 23:32

Can't even be arsed to read the full thread, so you're racist, sexist and against transgender issues. Fan-fucking-tastic.

busyboysmum · 11/09/2017 23:33

Women's toilets, shelters, changing rooms, hospital wards, prisons should be penis free. There is no place for men with penises in those spaces. I reject the idea that a person can have a penis and be a woman. That is nonsense.

buttonhead101 · 11/09/2017 23:33

White British folk?? Ffs.

EastMidsMummy · 11/09/2017 23:34

I don't know at such a young age how you differentiate.

Neither do I, but I would hope child health professionals would.

Surely none of us have any well informed idea of how seriously or thoroughly this has been investigated by the child's parents, doctors and school. The assumption from a lot of posters appears to be that the child wears a dress on a whim one day and teacher tells the rest of the class they now must refer to her as a girl. But there's no reason to think that's what happened.

EamonnWright · 11/09/2017 23:34

Since when was a toilet and a "prison" ffs, a safe place??????? Do you actually read what you write before posting. I personally don't walk into a public toilet and think "aha, here I am safe, excellent, I can stroll around naked, do what I like, no-one can touch me here ha ha ha". And a prison! Sorry but I feel like I would rather die than go to prison, I would be so terrified, how would anyone think that was a safe place! Neither place is a safe place, whether men or women were there you would be at risk of harm. Women's refuges - you have an argument, toilets and prisons, sorry you do not.

You think it's fine that a rapist can change gender and move to a woman's prison? You don't think women should be safe in prison?

BeBeatrix · 11/09/2017 23:37

Jesus is a fictional character

Only Christians believe Jesus was God. But pretty much every serious historian in the world believes that he existed.

orlantina · 11/09/2017 23:38

But there's no reason to think that's what happened

Indeed. And people aren't going to hear the other side as this should really all be confidential for the child involved.

There's a debate to be had. You've got gender stereotypes, children who get told what boys and girls should be like and children who may well have serious issues and who live in a world which is more accepting.

Not every child who says they are trans is trans. But there will be some.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 23:39

How the hell is that article 'balance'?

People cannot change sex. Even if they really really want to.

Boys can wear dresses no problem though but they are not and never will be girls or women.

BusyBeez99 · 11/09/2017 23:39

I did say that above - but that it got changed to turn him into something more than he was. People embellished the stories.

VforVienetta · 11/09/2017 23:39

The rigidity of people like Busy is what contributes to this whole transgender issue.
If people felt they were free to dress, live, and express themselves in the way that suited their own personality, we would see a very broad spectrum of normal.
Our current normal is so narrow, that those who don't feel they fit within it try to shoehorn themselves into the next that fits.

Being born male should not define your fricking clothing choices. We should all have the freedom to look daft and it not be such a massive deal that we feel our basic chromosomal identity is wrong.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 11/09/2017 23:40

He still wore a dress as do many middle eastern men.

BusyBeez99 · 11/09/2017 23:42

Go ahead and look daft then but don't ask my son to start calling your son Mary instead of Mark.

NYConcreteJungle · 11/09/2017 23:43

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thawb

BusyBeez99 · 11/09/2017 23:44

But they don't then ask people to think of them as women when they wear those clothes

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 23:44

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VeryCunningStunt · 11/09/2017 23:45

Go ahead and look daft then but don't ask my son to start calling your son Mary instead of Mark

Oh dear, oh dear. You're on a wind-up on this thread, aren't you? Grin

orlantina · 11/09/2017 23:45

Being born male should not define your fricking clothing choices

It's a bit ironic that we have schools that support trans students but then we have schools who insist boys wear trousers and girls wear skirts, who insist boys can't have long hair and who still treat boys and girls in very different ways.

BusyBeez99 · 11/09/2017 23:46

No wind-up

NYConcreteJungle · 11/09/2017 23:48

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilt

TheFallenMadonna · 11/09/2017 23:49

That is a complete misrepresentation of minimum's post Hmm

VestalVirgin · 11/09/2017 23:51

It's a bit ironic that we have schools that support trans students but then we have schools who insist boys wear trousers and girls wear skirts, who insist boys can't have long hair and who still treat boys and girls in very different ways.

Hey, Iran pays for gender surgery and has an almost all-male women's football team.

Genderism is the perfect way to get rid of all those gender-non-conforming people, you just say they are the other sex, sterilize them, and hey presto, everyone conforms!
They might still not conform perfectly, but by then they are sterilized so won't spread their non-conformist genes.

So, not ironic at all. It all fits together very smoothly. Extremist Christians will probably figure this out, too, and then everyone will live in harmony and fart rainbows.The bepenised will still oppress those with vulvas, but since there are female penises and male vulvas, that will all be totes gender equal, so no problem, really.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/09/2017 23:51

I saw the couple on TV being questioned by some MtF trans person.

They asked the couple what gender their child was, to which the couple replied "boys" And the MtF person then asked "how do you know that?" The couple looked incredulous and then said something about different bodies. Then the MtF person came out with the "aha! It's all about genitals isn't it" leaving the parents floundering helplessly. How on earth do you debate reasonably with someone who is so utterly deluded, and makes these slippery arguments that make you feel like you are in the wrong.

My understanding is that the parents were angry they weren't consulted because of the distress it had caused their DCs (yup, two DCs in different years, both year had a transgender child). It is pretty distressing at six to think that if you are a boy , and you wear the wrong clothes then you turn into a girl.

I also saw something that suggested the school's policy on transpobia included something like not believing a boy is actually a girl is transphobic.

I'd be pretty pissed off with the school too.

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