To think DH is lucky I'm so fucking reasonable?!!!

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We were watching one of the many many alien franchise films (actually I was arsing about on my phone as they all look the same to me-unless Sigourney has the starring role-swoons ).

One of the male characters started to vomit blood.

The female trained nurse in the team ran away crying and started sobbing to the control centre that she'd "never seen anything like it" and was scared etc. The man in the control room was her husband and said something along the lines of "calm down sweet heart".

I can't remember the last time I saw a man sobbing dramatically with fear in a film but I'm pretty sure I could name 10 movies off the top of my head with hysterical females.

To add insult to injury the actress is playing a trained nurse.

She will most likely have seen plenty of people vomit blood and if remotely competent will have remained calm and professional throughout.

I'm pissed off that women are portrayed as hysterical idiots in so many films.

I work in medicine and I can't remember the last time we stopped CPR because a female team member was too emotional!

Initially DH agreed with me and I felt all pleased that I had such a lovely DH. Five minutes later he decided as it's all fantasy, my point is nonsense and that I'm just wasting a good movie.

He then proceeded to impersonate my upset every time a man appeared on the screen "oh look at the way that man's convulsing, they'd only make a man look so pathetic" and on and on it went.

AIBU to think that this kind of crap and totally unrealistic portrayal of "hysterical" women exacerbates sexism and is subtly holding women back?

Also is my DH's mockery as hurtful as I find it or am I just tired and grumpy?

It's even worse as the original movies were among the first and few to portray an incredible character who just happened to have a vagina!

I'm a bit livid and could do with your wise words mumsnetters .

What's the film I saw a trailer of,???where a woman gets captured and someone injects her,the next bit she's awake and she's lost an arm and a leg because someone was hungry...then she's seen on a prosthetic leg ,with a gun running and fighting...weird film..I'm not sure sure if I dreamt it,or actually watched it..strange indeed

This is why 'Buffy the vampire slayer' became a thing. Joss whedon was sick of seeing the blonde bimbo being the victim and he made a kick ass blonde heroine. I know it's a bit twee but I liked that about the show. She was so tiny and looked weak but she kicked arse!

I tried to watch Coupling a few times and it bored me to tears so I stopped. I definitely won't be giving it a second chance now.

EezerGoode, you might be thinking of Planet Terror with Rose McGowan? Forget how it happens but she loses a leg and straps a gun on instead.

Yes I read this one a few months ago too. You expected her to take you to a hospital appointment as well didn't you? Even when she said she couldn't?

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Oddly the Warcraft film passed the Bechdel test. I rather enjoyed it, surprisingly.

Luckily DP has had enough ranting over the years to get on board with these things and be annoyed with me, as well as understand his own privilege as a middle class, white, healthy male.

Cheers snake,was it a good film

Just asked my DH what he thinks it says, and without hesitation, he said Grace and Noah! Go figure.

But I do think a reprint with a different font is in order. Better to have a bit of a hit financially than the bad karma an unhappy customer brings.

Oops - wrong thread

Women characters are played very badly in films. YANBU.

No - YANBU. We each have to stand up against such stereotypes, because it is us that is labelled with them.

Whilst I'm no more than usually feminist, I do think that Hollywood has a lot to answer for when it comes to the portrayal of women and the continuous perpetration of women as unable to cope. Just as it continues to be racist and ageist.

I've just read Carol Shield's 'Unless' in which the main character regular writes to men who write articles and essays about World's Great Thinkers, Great Writers etc (which are generally all male lists) asking how her daughters are meant to find their space in that world. Excellent, thought provoking.
I also heard recently how in the 70s the French wanted to exhume Marie Curie's husband's remains to rebury them in a place that honours those who have made significant contributions to science. Not Marie Curie's remains....
Luckily, my husband has a lot of time for everyday sexism. But then he's Canadian.

What's really bloody awful about this sort of sexist bullshit is that looking back we'd probably expect the 80s to be more sexist, as in, well haven't we come far, and in some ways we have come a bit further, but there's so much backlash and there are far more strong women in some of the eighties franchises than there are now. Ripley, Sarah Connor off of the Terminator films - which have gone on to suck hard seen the franchise has been rebooted and a few others. There was loads of sexist crap then as well, but we shouldn't still have to deal with it.

The notion of a trained nurse screaming and running away from someone vomiting blood is so pathetic that it makes me want to go all Hulk Smash. Women deserve better representation in films. And on television.

Thinking of some of the things I have dealt with right before going off to lunch, YAverymucNBU! Maybe she was thinking a out the incident report she would have to write an hour after her shift finished? That might do it!

It depends which film it is, how old it is and if there were any other female characters in it. I have seen a lot of these films have a 'hysterical' woman and a woman that pulls her sleeves up kicks was and is the only one to survive, I have also seen them with 'hysterical' men also, they don't tend to last very long. I have also seen it where the 'hysterical' woman is the one to kick ass in the end and become stronger, all to do with personal growth. So I can't say YABU or not to be honest l.

Nurses are well hard in real life, they deal with the sharp end of the knife and will even make the nice ones a decent cup of tea with the shoddy nhs tea bags.

It's stuff like this that devalues women's roles and experiences.

The Funny thing here is that the role of Ripley was written for a man. When Sigourney was cast they left the text exactly as it was written.

I don't know if that supports sexism in the Alien series or goes against it ?!

For Christ's sake, grow up. Read a decent book, instead of giving house room to schlock like "Alien".

In the first one, once the penis with teeth had burst out of John Hurt's chest in the first film you'd seen what was worth seeing unless you counted the shot of Sigourney Weave in her knickers in the final sequence: the rest of the sequels were crap even judged as crap.

The movie was made for the intended audience; your husband. Its fantasy. He doesn't seem to have a good sense of humor about his pastime being mocked. I dislike my husband mocking my favorite things too. Maybe stop watching it with him if you are looking for logic or reality where it does not exist. You hurt his feelings, play nice unless you think that he is a sexist jerk.

I read on article the other day about films that failed the inverse Bechdel. There are 4.

Love a bit of manly stereotype in a world gone .mad on gende samenessr.let the men be a protector.but let it be ok fr woman to be too.

I think there are a number of issues here: firstly, most films are made for men, by men, so the fantasy content is pretty juvenile to begin with. You will break your heart long before you break any gender stereotypes. Secondly, sequels are generally money-making mechanisms rather than actual films with actual plots. Thirdly, your husband's reaction was pretty damned juvenile - is he normally like this when you challenge something he likes? And how do you react when he challenges your favourite things?

Quite unacceptable to link overreacting to stress linked to either sex. I have seen both men and women do tough things. I recollect in a foot and mouth outbreak being sent to inspect a farm with a good probability of the disease. The farmer refused to come out of the kitchen, too scared, he knew the govt would shoot all their cows if we found it. His wife was made of sterner stuff we went through them all, and I like to think, in a superstitious sort of way, that the reason they were all clear was because she had the courage to come with me.

So you weren't actually watching the film but decided to ruin it for your DH because the director was sexist. YANBU so long as it's ok for him to ruin anything you're watching that he finds something to pick fault with.