To think DH is lucky I'm so fucking reasonable?!!!

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We were watching one of the many many alien franchise films (actually I was arsing about on my phone as they all look the same to me-unless Sigourney has the starring role-swoons ).

One of the male characters started to vomit blood.

The female trained nurse in the team ran away crying and started sobbing to the control centre that she'd "never seen anything like it" and was scared etc. The man in the control room was her husband and said something along the lines of "calm down sweet heart".

I can't remember the last time I saw a man sobbing dramatically with fear in a film but I'm pretty sure I could name 10 movies off the top of my head with hysterical females.

To add insult to injury the actress is playing a trained nurse.

She will most likely have seen plenty of people vomit blood and if remotely competent will have remained calm and professional throughout.

I'm pissed off that women are portrayed as hysterical idiots in so many films.

I work in medicine and I can't remember the last time we stopped CPR because a female team member was too emotional!

Initially DH agreed with me and I felt all pleased that I had such a lovely DH. Five minutes later he decided as it's all fantasy, my point is nonsense and that I'm just wasting a good movie.

He then proceeded to impersonate my upset every time a man appeared on the screen "oh look at the way that man's convulsing, they'd only make a man look so pathetic" and on and on it went.

AIBU to think that this kind of crap and totally unrealistic portrayal of "hysterical" women exacerbates sexism and is subtly holding women back?

Also is my DH's mockery as hurtful as I find it or am I just tired and grumpy?

It's even worse as the original movies were among the first and few to portray an incredible character who just happened to have a vagina!

I'm a bit livid and could do with your wise words mumsnetters .

Poor thing, he sat down for a bit of meaningless escapism and you made him use his brain, challenged his assumptions and pointed out that a presumably favourite film til now is actually a bit of a pile of poorly written tripe.

No wonder he's struggling to get his poor little head back in kilter Weird how some people get so invested in film franchises they would rather dismiss and offend the actual person they live with/married than stop and think about what they're actually watching.

I love you all (sneaks downstairs to get ketchup and any toy that remotely resembles an alien).....

I actually really like the Scream Movies because I thought Sydney was a bad-ass (and by the way everyone's like 'poor little Syd' you don't expect her to be). Courtney Cox also plays a strong female role as Gale Weathers.
They also have males playing girly 'scared' roles like Randy and even the Police Officer, Dewey, plays a non typical male role (not the typical strong and smart officer).

We were watching Cloudy with a chance of meatballs with DSS last night. Halfway through I realised there was literally one female character in the whole film (the love interest), in a film set in a supposedly normal American town with the townspeople making up the main characters. So you have the main character (boy), his dad, the mayor, the town idiot, the policeman, the policeman's son, the TV station boss...ALL of the main characters are male for no discernable reason. I mentioned it and DP just grunted. Annoying.

No it's not unreasonable! Everyday sexism in action.

Us nurses are as hard as nails, it's bloody ridiculous that women are portrayed like that and your husband is being absurd. I'd be livid too.

I'm lucky, my husband also sees a lot of this stuff.
However, I was at training yesterday, and the Mighty Girl site was referenced in relation to female scientists. One woman refused to use it because there was no Mighty Boy site.

Some of the American cop shows are the same. Woman hiding in cupboard from nasty male aggressors, police man over phone tells her to stay put, hysterical woman doesn't listen to Man, foolishly thinks she can make a break for it and is shot dead as a result. Tut tut that's what happens to silly women who don't listen to men. Still at least she won't make that mistake again.

That would annoy me, and I'm not a nurse. Can imagine it would be SUPREMELY more annoying if I was.

Janos Flynt in Game of Thrones is a big old cowardly scaredy cat (and loses his head for it). Actually GoT is quite good for showing extras and minor characters men as gibbering wrecks.

But yeah, your DH was being a bit of a numpty.

It's odd because Alien is one of the few films with a completely kickass leading heroine. And yes, your husband is being pathetic.

He probably wondered why he couldn't just sit and relax to watch a film without it turning into an argument.

He probably wondered why he couldn't just sit and relax to watch a film without it turning into an argument.

Then he should've married a woman with no opinions. Only has himself to blame.

Let's face it, women are used to dealing with large amounts of blood from about the age of 12

Your DH is being VU for making you watch one of those shit Alien franchise movies (not the first one with Sigourney, which is good).

My DH tried to make me watch one recently but I was having none of it ... and now I see I was right!

The new Alien films are ruining the franchise for me. They are concentrating too much on the origin and legend of the Aliens instead of making a entertaining movie with a few jump scares. If I wanted to get into the backstory, I'd read the comics.

Isn't it also remarkable that any woman who is portrayed as able to deal with what women actually deal with as a matter of course in daily life is bound to end up described as badass.

Where are the badass men who don't scream and turn faint at the sight of blood? (well not in my birth family, that's for sure).

Where are the badass men who don't scream and turn faint at the sight of blood?

Working as farmers.

Well my plans to LTB have fallen through as he has given me a lie in while deals with the 4 children. I'm weak like that .

In all seriousness I still feel annoyed that he doesn't 100% see my point but I'm working on it.

I know I'm right cos mumsnet says so and I've read him bits from the thread.

EBearhug, I am sure they exist, but the thing is that a man who does not show this weakness is never described as badass: he's just being a MAN.

A woman otoh who can cope on screen with what women in her profession demonstrably do have to cope with on a daily basis is Special, Badass, Not Like Other Women, the Companion Who Is Different.

What Cory said.

Ironically women have been assisting at births forever. A bloody and painful experience, yet frequently when they're faced with blood/trauma on screen they seem to fall apart.

It's almost as if male directors and writers are projecting their own bizarre view of women as defenceless easily upset delicate little things onto their female characters.

That's what made Sigourney's Ripley so unusual but in real life I meet women like her all of the time.

It's really bloody frustrating and it's 2017, surely things have moved on!

I agree with you op.
I work with young children and vomit, piss, shit and blood do not worry me in the slightest. Dp on the other hand can quite easily squirm when I recount details of my day to him.

Exactly Emily, the whole thing boils my piss

As a GoT character pointed out, girls see more blood than boys.

I read a very pretentious article about Alien once. The author said the chest bursting scene was frightening because it put a man into the experience of birthing, thus inverting his masculine identity and forcing feminisation upon him.

I thought it was scary because it's a fucking alien bursting out of a dude's chest.

Yorrick- there is a British comedy show (coupling) that has a whole episode dedicated to the john hurt as a comparative to birth subject. ALL the men get the john hurt = childbirth reference, whilst the female characters are left questioning the men's maturity and rationale.

It's all SO funny. Except it's not :(