To think that Dior are way off the mark to employ Johnny Depp

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Who does he appeal to?

Aftershave for wife beaters?

They also employed John Galliano.

I am baffled.

I was a massive JD fan and then I heard of the abuse of amber heard. I won't watch anything he is in now. I can't.

Amber I believe you.

Well he has physically assaulted people before and has been arrested for it. Then of course there were the various bruises Amber Heard was photographed with throughout her relationship with him.

I am interested in this interview with Winona Ryder though. Like I said, I've seen it referenced in several places but I can never find it or snippets of it online. Even if it was pre internet days there would surely be something available online.. .or simply a quote from her or anything...

The brand can employ anyone who they deemed is bankable for their products. Look at Kate Moss (narc?) and Cheryl Twedy (guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and was critised by the Judge for showing no remorse) after their own scandal scandal. They still seemed to be in earning power. Cheryl duet with Gary Barlow at the Diamond Jubilee concert.

@Banana None of that confirms he's abused the women in his life though?

@Ferrets - I know he's been arrested for assaulting the paps but, again, nothing to prove he's guilty of DV

If he was abusive to Winona and she's not speaking up then she's done Amber Heard a disservice.

Unfortunately for Amber she's never come across as a likeable person. JD on the other hand is good old Jack Sparrow and does charidee work for kiddies. She never stood a real chance of being believed by the majority of people in the 'he said, she said' stakes. If there is irrefutable evidence he assaulted her she should have taken that bitch down in court.

@Ferrets Yes, if I recall, there was including towards KateM allegedly if you were to read old blinds. I mean with enough money, one can 'scrub' info from the web. Sometimes it can be quite difficult if the person is of a higher position with clout in the industry. It's best for one to keep quiet/deny so as not to rock the boat.

@nameusername the important word there being "allegedly", same as Winona. Yet here is W stating the exact opposite?

"I mean, he was never, never that way towards me," Ryder said. "Never abusive at all towards me. I only know him as a really good, loving, caring guy who is very, very protective of the people that he loves."

edition.cnn.com/2016/06/28/entertainment/winona-ryder-johnny-depp-abuse/index.html

Yeah, I was appalled that this scumbag appeared in my living room the other night. Dior should have dropped him.

I think it was Kate Moss rather than Winona who has referred to an abusive past relationship thought to be Johnny Depp.

I used to love Johnny, especially with Tim Burton, but I can't stomach him now.

Well precisely.. .which is why it would be really stupid of her to make something like that. She must surely have known the responses she would get when she went public with the claim but still chose to do it anyway.

Assaulting someone doesn't make someone guilty of DV however it does show that they are willing to lash out and assault someone. So I don't think It's too much of a stretch to think they may also be capable of assaulting their wife.

^make up something like that.

So I don't think It's too much of a stretch to think they may also be capable of assaulting their wife

Fully agree with you here. I just wish Amber had pushed for this to go to court if the evidence is so damning.

Obviously I don't know what kind of person Amber is. I've heard she isn't very likeable but that doesn't mean she can't be the victim of DV does it? Bad things happen to not so nice people too.

He visits sick kids so he's OK. Yeah no one who visits hospital is ever gonna be an evil predator right?

Fuck me I'm sickened by the absolute refusal to believe Amber when there is all the evidence.
Fuck her though cuz he's fit ennit?

When the truth about a man is right in front of you yet you still defend him you know that deep down you hate women and will always place women above them.

I obviously have no idea what did or didn't happen.
However, I can say I used to really fancy Johnny Depp, loved him in everything from Edward Scissorhands to 21 Jump Street.
Then saw that recording published where Amber was filming him. He looked pretty scary from where I was standing.
Definite temper seemed to show.
Not so much liking him now.

@Ferrets - at no point have I said she can't be the victim of DV. Her career was effectively over the moment she accused him and was judged by the public as a goldigger. If there's evidence then I'm sad she didn't take this to court.

Kate Moss has always claimed he was pretty much the love of her life, never any hint of abuse yet the rumours still persist.

From scouring the internet, forums and reading comments on various site, it seems to me that the women victim tend to be given more grief. Hell, the stans for their idols can do no wrong in their eyes even with the recent truth about JCarey. In the CEvans case, the victim was villified.

I don't know much about BPitt or AJ case but she gets vile things said about her even when BPitt admitted to be a heavy drinker, potsmoker, etc. There are also other celebs couple where the wife/partner was vilified but this was the recent one that came to my mind.

He visits sick kids so he's OK. Yeah no one who visits hospital is ever gonna be an evil predator right?

Yeah, must admit that comment stuck out to me, too! Just because you're heavily involved with hospitals or charities doesn't make you automatically a good person.....

From my experience on another site, I'm using short names incase there are scrubbers for these people.

Fuck me I'm sickened by the absolute refusal to believe Amber when there is all the evidence

I don't refuse to believe her. I do believe it was an abusive relationship. Allegations, however, about abuse in previous relationships that have been denied (e.g. Winona) simply muddy the water.

Yep, case in point is Jimmy Savile.
I'm curious about the case of AnthonyVivienFox and hopefully one day it is resolved. The only actor that ever catches my eye as a child was River phoenix (stand by me) and for a grief moment in time, i blamed JDepp. That was silly of me.

"Dior - the fragrance of men who beat up women" is what I automatically think or every time I see an ad for Dior fragrance (not just the JD ads).

Kate Moss did once refer to him being abusive and I cannot find any evidence doing a Google search. I would expect that has been deleted.

Winnona Ryder has been completely frozen out of Hollywood since she was arrested for shoplifting. Something happened there that was way more than shoplifting. Don't know if JD has anything to do with it.

I'm not on a jury. I'm not in the press. I don't have to think about reasonable doubt.

I can read statistics on how common abuse of women by men is and how addiction and narcissist tendencies (common in actors) feeds abusive behaviour. I know how infrequently woman get help or speak out.

Yet EVERY time some bloke with connections, money and power is accused of this all we hear is how a woman made it up. They are ALL innocent. Bullshit. The vast majority of them did what they are accused of.

"If he was abusive to Winona and she's not speaking up then she's done Amber Heard a disservice."

Thats right up there with saying that if a woman doesnt report a rape its her fault if there are more victims.

Women are not responsible for mens behaviour.

The carefully worded statement he put out after they reached a settlement was an admission in my eyes.