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AIBU to think that parents should buy the correct uniform and stop moaning

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Loveluck7 · 06/09/2017 17:07

I am getting increasingly irritated by people on FB moaning that their child's human rights have been violated because they were put into isolation for having the wrong uniform.

I understand that some rules can seem ridiculous but unfortunately some bad parents who have let their child wear spray on trousers and tiny skirts, have necessitated schools stipulating the exact items they need to wear.

Isolation does seem a harsh punishment when it is the parent's fault but how else can schools enforce the rules when some parent's think rules do not apply to them? The child cannot attend class without trousers and parent's would be angry if the child was sent home.

You also often find that it is these parent's who also complain when a school is no good at discipline, yet will not follow the rules themselves.

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Kittymum03 · 06/09/2017 18:14

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RainbowBriteRules · 06/09/2017 18:15

Catching Shock. So the girls have to be uncomfortable and risk thrush from sweaty tights at all times because boys are taking photos.

expatinscotland · 06/09/2017 18:16

' But £16 for trousers still isn't a lot, especially at secondary.'

Start giving out some money then, since you have so much. It's a huge amount for something they might have to buy 2-3x/year. Or you have 2 kids. Or on top of everything else.

Oh, and go to another school? There next closest one, geographically, is on an island. The other ones are over an hour away by car, each way. There is no other school. Thankfully we don't have such a fucked up and stupid policy.

Loveluck7 · 06/09/2017 18:16

Catching. That is victim shaming and disgusting.

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ArbitraryName · 06/09/2017 18:17

Parents would do well to remember the same... if you don't like the rules, go to another school!

School choice is generally a myth. You're allowed to express preferences but you just get what you're given. If the only school you can get a place in has a stupid uniform policy then you're stuck with it.

Amanduh · 06/09/2017 18:17

Yanbu.

Loveluck7 · 06/09/2017 18:18

scottishdiem: I think you may be projecting. You come across as very creepy.

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MsHarry · 06/09/2017 18:19

Starting as they mean to go on, it's just the tip of the iceberg regarding rules and authority. I think it sends the right message. If parents don't like it, take your child somewhere else.

ClumsyFool · 06/09/2017 18:19

@mumtomaxwell completely missing the point, many workplaces are exactly the same in that respect and none of that is the issue. The issue is the prohibitive cost for parents of having to buy specific items with specific logos on often for more than one child and in multiples of the items, it does not enhance education but can mean families going without other necessities purely for the sake of a logo.

Maryof1993 · 06/09/2017 18:20

Posters who don't know how to use apostrophes should be put in isolation.

BlackeyedSusan · 06/09/2017 18:20

I object to having to pay £14 per skirt because the supermarkets do not supply them in that style. do not object to uniform, just do not logo for the sake of it. (pe kit ffs.) schools should not price poorer parents out of applying for the school because of the uniform costs. or fecking ipads

PortiaCastis · 06/09/2017 18:20

Kids go to school to be educated not to keep an overpriced uniform shop in business. If schools want kids in pricey uniforms I suggest they pay for them.

CatchingBabies · 06/09/2017 18:21

It's been in the news everywhere. The school sent home 60 brand new year 7 girls on their first day of high school because they were wearing socks. The school website said socks were allowed so parents were confused.

It's the only time I've ever agreed with the parents. I hate tights and it's a rule introduced purely because of the boys behaviour.

BoneyBackJefferson · 06/09/2017 18:21

And workplaces have much more lenient dress codes these days

Not all workplaces, several I have worked at would see you removed from the place of work due to H&S. Others for not wearing logo'd clothing.

Unless you are told you can only buy your clothes from X shop and not Primark etc, it isn't the same.

Again there are work places were you can only buy the uniform through the place of work. I am thinking banks etc.

Sandycarrots · 06/09/2017 18:21

I'm pro-uniform and YANBU op. If you have a uniform, either at school or work, then it needs to be properly enforced. Why bother otherwise?

PortiaCastis · 06/09/2017 18:23

So if I cannot afford a £40 skirt my dd would be put in isolation. How ridiculous stupid and downright bonkers!

Pengggwn · 06/09/2017 18:26

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ClumsyFool · 06/09/2017 18:27

The wearing of a uniform isn't actually the problem though is it? I'm all for uniform at school as it prevents the children without the latest brand of fashion being bullied etc. Why does it need to go to the extreme though of pricing some parents out of an education at a non fee paying school? There is no benefit to having a logo on everything and paying twice or three times the price for it.

Blossomdeary · 06/09/2017 18:28

Ban uniforms - indeed; they are nonsense.

Amiable · 06/09/2017 18:28

I am deeply unimpressed with these sorts of uniform rules. I have just had to buy my daughter her new uniform for secondary school. Both boys and girls have to wear regulation trousers, however, the boys can choose from 4 different styles, all plain black. The girls on the other hand HAVE to buy one specific type which has the schools initials embroidered on the waist, they are £5 more expensive than the most expensive boys trousers, and £11 more expensive than the cheapest! What has THAT got to do with learning?!!! But yes, the school is a really good one and so I have "sucked it up" and I have bought the regulation trousers. Angry

NoFucksImAQueen · 06/09/2017 18:28

Really mean no offence by this, but aren't £5 trousers going to fall apart in a couple of months? £16 doesn't seem expensive for something the child will wear so frequently.

I buy Ds (now 6) his school trousers from Sainsbury's and usually in the 25% off sale which makes 2 pairs just over £5
They lasted him all year and are still looking great

jjbutt · 06/09/2017 18:30

aren't £5 trousers going to fall apart in a couple of months? £16 doesn't seem expensive for something the child will wear so frequently
The school trousers aren't better quality they just charge more because they are logoed and parents have nowhere else they can go to buy them.

Amiable · 06/09/2017 18:30

Oh, and as DD pointed out, when she is wearing her regulation jumper or blazer, you can't even see the damn initials!!!

RainbowBriteRules · 06/09/2017 18:32

Amiable, that just sums up how ridiculous it is!

coddiwomple · 06/09/2017 18:36

YANBU at all

Maybe school should be able to issue fines to the parents, that might work better.

I have been to schools with, and without uniforms. It is so much easier to be a teen when there's a uniform. If you are lucky enough to have wealthy parents, it's fine - as long as you convince them to buy the right stuff, you are in the cool gang, but I feel sorry for the ones from less privileged backgrounds.

It is also unrealistic to think you can wear anything you like when there's no uniform. Parents and children end up being told off by schools just as much. Uniforms are so much easier to clarify what is acceptable and what is not.

My only issue with schools is when they are not clear about the uniforms: asking for "black shoes" then kicking a fuss because the girls shoes are the wrong one is just silly. Just tell me what to buy or not to buy, then it's easier for everybody.

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