Dear Jacob Rees Mog...

[MoiraRosesMeltdown]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41172426

.....You may think that abortion is "morally indefensible", and that
"Life is sacrosanct and begins at the point of conception", even in cases or rape or incest.

You can have an opinion on this when you have a uterus, have been raped or have been abused yourself. You can never know why individual women make this heartbreaking decision. You are supposed to represent the public. Keep your insulting, patronising opinions to yourself.

Yours sincerely,
Women of the world

Disgusting little bastard.
Is anyone surprised?
This is the sort of shit that we now have to put up with, since that expensively educated stormtrooper Boris Johnson and the racist Farage managed to get in the public eye.
Rees-Mogg is Britain today's complement to Trump.

"I am deeply suspicious of people who never change their mind about anything - its not a quality, its an indication that they are narrow minded and unable to absorb facts and evidence that conflict with their pre-existing world view."

That is your opinion, which you have every right to hold. I'd agree with you, by and large.

I don't think it can be presented as fact that JRM has never changed his mind about "anything", though, can it? I doubt an interview with an 11 year-old can possibly have been so all-encompassing.

What might the DUP think of working with a staunch Catholic as PM? (Disclaimer: I'm from an Irish Catholic family, and think he's a shitehawk). Sorry if PPs have already mentioned this.

Of course he and other men are 'entitled' to an opinion and allowed to voice it too.

Fortunately, you can vote any way you want.

Do rape victims have more of an opinion than women who simply own a uterus? Should male MPs not be allowed to vote on laws related to things like abortion because they're male?

Bodily autonomy isn't relevant. You have the right to stop anyone doing anything that you don't like but not to force someone to do something.

Actually although I don't agree with his views, it was actually refreshing to hear a politician say what he feels and why.

Don't hear any other MP being so honest, in fact how long did it take that lib dem leader to say what he thought

Moira I was going to suggest Septimus and Octavia but I like the long version of Kailey upthread.

He is entitled to his view...and I am entitled to say he is a stunning hypocrite. His version of "right to life" or even the teachings of Jesus does not appear to appear to encompass saving refugees children in the Med; or through the Dubbs Bill; ensuring the sick and disabled people are not sanctioned (often for requirements they cannot due to their disabilities); ensuring families do not fall into poverty due to the birth of a third children unless you can prove rape...and on and on.

There seems to be a massive cherry picking of the bits of his faith he likes and which sustain his privilege. The Pope is a much stronger advocate against poverty, the excesses of the market and for environmental protection. True Christianity is much too socialist for the likes of him (and the hardline American Evangelists as well)

Just as a comparison: most Muslim politicians don't drink alcohol and believe it is a sin.

Only the very stupid or prejudiced would believe that meant Muslim MPs intended to close down pubs and ban Pinot Noir from the supermarket. But exactly the same people who would protest most loudly against that sort of prejudice either can't or won't apply their critical faculties to JRM in the same way even though exactly the same principles are involved.

It's blatant anti-Christian intolerance and political opportunism.

I'm an endangered species on MN, a Tory voter. I don't believe JR-M will ever be PM. I am an atheist and disagree with his opinion on terminations and same sex marriage.

However, I love that he gets all the left wingers on here in such a froth whenever he is discussed. It's great entertainment

The dark ages just telephoned, they want JRM back where he belongs ;)

MargaretTwatyer But drinking is an option open to everyone. I have a friend who's Muslim by birth, and drinks alcohol.

Abortion only affects women. I don't have views on what men do with their semen.

Somerset? The same people that moaned like there was no tomorrow when they had the storms and floods in the winter of 2013..............yet the area still turned blue in the next two elections both last year and the year before.

So they want the flood protection yet dont want to pay for it. So vote for the lower tax option again.

I don't think the alcohol thing is a fair comparison. If a Muslim MP vocally claimed that drinking alcohol was "morally reprehensible" there would absolutely be an uproar, and people would be questioning their suitability to run the country.
But most T-totallers (of all religions and non-religious) generally hold a "not for me but you are welcome to it stance". Which is actually analogous to a pro-choice position on termination.
By calling an abortion a morally reprehensible choice, JRM is (intentionally or not) signalling that those women who have had an abortion have made a morally reprehensible choice. That includes many women on here who have had terminations in the past. JRM thinks that those women have done a morally reprehensible thing. He has a right to say and think that, but I have a right to think he is a twat.

And btw, I am a Christian and I strongly disagree that criticising JRM for the things he says and does is "anti-Christian intolerance".

Margaret

How is it anti Christian when he cherrypicks the bits of Christianity which don't affect his privileged lives and ignore ll the teachings about caring for the poor and dispossessed? He should live his faith; or at least be honest that he is a Christian in name only

I wonder what he thinks of the death penalty?

Quite user.
It really is quite worrying when people think they can shut down objections to influential, powerful politicians with cries of "intolerance".

So I assume that women aren't allowed to have an opinion on circumcision then? I don't agree with his views but he is entitled to them. Abortion effects men too.

bet many 'proper Conservatives' would hate the idea of having a Catholic as their leader.

Why? It wouldn't be the first time, Circ. IDS.

Agree user

Circumcision and drinking alcohol are not comparable with abortion.

"... he cherrypicks the bits of Christianity which don't affect his privileged lives and ignore ll the teachings about caring for the poor and dispossessed?*"
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Any evidence for this assertion?

While his views on marriage equality and women's bodily autonomy are reprehensible, they aren't really a surprise to anyone who has ever listened to him before or paid attention to his voting record. What is more worrying for the country are his views on race which aren't as well publicised but are truly awful.

Should he be made de facto PM, he may well be unable to stop women having access to basic healthcare, but what he can do is make it much more difficult for women to be able to access that healthcare. Putting almost insurmountable obstacles in the way of women's access to healthcare seems to be a favourite pastime of politicians of a similar stripe to R-M.

Hope that amuses the more right wing who enjoy lefties discussing politics, or as they wish to believe "frothing".

He hasn't said that he would want to change the law of the land re abortion. He was answering questions he was asked, and being honest about his beliefs, which I don't share.

Presumably the mayor of London has personal beliefs too on morality as a result of his Muslim faith?

He's an awful shit of a human being.

Abortion effects men too.

Not as much as a forced unwanted or unviable pregnancy affects a woman. And that's what he'd prefer: forced pregnancy. Raped? Carry and give birth to your rapist' child. Oh, your rapist was a relative? Never mind, you've just got to grit your teeth for the miracle of life. What's that? You're only twelve years old? And the pregnancy is physically dangerous? It doesn't matter, it's what God wants!

Fuck that guy.