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AIBU?

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Please someone help me help him sleep. I'm losing it!

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:11

If you are going to be nasty, please don't as I honestly can't take it.
Dc2 is 10 months he hasn't slept longer than 2 hours a night since birth and that is rare. He has been up for the last 2 months every half hour.
Partner works full time. Have a 4 year old too. I have been into the GP about 3 times now, first time given antidepressants and told to leave him to cry. I didn't. I tried other techniques, nothing. Told to do controlled crying again, I didn't. 3rd time I've been doing it for 9 days and there is no improvement. I'm besides myself. He screams and screams and screams. He is up all the time. He is not hungry, he apparently doesn't have reflux, fuck all is working.
I am so tired that I cry a lot at the moment. Partner has tried taking over nights but he's shit at reacting before I'm awake fully and tbh the baby doesn't settle for him.
Poor 4 year old barely can sleep because of the constant crying and I'm due to start my deferred year of uni so soon and I'm going to have to say no because honestly I don't know how the fuck I am going to cope with the workload when I can barely even make a cup of tea at the moment.

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misdee · 05/09/2017 23:14

Co sleeping or in a cot?

TippyTinkleTrousers · 05/09/2017 23:15

Was/is he breast or bottle fed?

Could he have a dairy intolerance?

Are or were (before weaning) his poos ever green, mucousy or smelled acidic?

Has he ever had strange Tasha or eczema?

TippyTinkleTrousers · 05/09/2017 23:15

*strange rashes.

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:16

Cot. Co sleeping stopped working out at around 5 months. I find it very difficult to sleep with him. Co slept with the first with ease.

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Domino20 · 05/09/2017 23:16

I didn't want to read and run. You have my whole hearted sympathy. My son was similar, it's soul destroying. What is the babies diet like?

misdee · 05/09/2017 23:16

What about silent reflux? Took months for my daughter to be diagnosed.

Blahblahboo · 05/09/2017 23:17

Controlled crying is cruel do you don't want to do that. You need to find a reason why he can't sleep, my nephew for example had acid reflux and still does at 8 years old. Until then I suggest putting him on the bed next to you, feed and cuddle him until he falls asleep then move him Into cot

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:17

He was breast fed until 7 months when I changed him over to formula because I was convinced that perhaps he wasn't getting enough milk and that's why he was always up (he's on the smaller side of normal weight) I went dairy free for 2 months whilst breastfeeding it's made no difference. He eats 3 meals a day. He doesn't nap during day time either unless on my chest for around 20 minutes.

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MakeItRain · 05/09/2017 23:18

Could it be "silent reflux"? My dd had it and she had the same terrible sleep pattern. Have a Google for symptoms.

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:18

Seen 2 separate GP's both are pretty sure there's no silent reflux :(

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:20

He used to go to bed fairly well, he has an established routine. It doesn't seem to matter where he is sleeping he still wakes repeatedly.

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Blahblahboo · 05/09/2017 23:20

Or and I know it isn't desirable but it was my life saver with my first as he wouldn't sleep at all, so on occasion I would resort to putting him in the vibrating bouncer. It worked immediately and i got a few hours. Looking back I think he had reflux too

GreenTulips · 05/09/2017 23:20

Try keeping him more upright in the cot head above belly - it may be acid burning

Good luck sleep deprivation is awful

misdee · 05/09/2017 23:20

Took several appointments to get dd6 diagnosed with silent reflux. A year later and gaviscon still keeps it under control. The screaming has stopped mainly. She has other issues but the screaming was the worse at night

TippyTinkleTrousers · 05/09/2017 23:21

Ok that's the dairy intolerance ruled out at least.

That's my only experience/input I'm afraid. I really wish I could help you more.

I can sympathise. My youngest at that age would wake like that. At worst, he would wake every few minutes so I'd have to stay away patting his back distracting him from the pain (multiple severe allergies. Took 2 years to figure them all out).

In my experience, babies wake that much because they are in discomfort. Not for funsies.

I'd consider silent reflux.

Is he otherwise thriving? Happy during the day? Good bond with you? Content when awake during the day? Reaching mile stone?

TheLegendOfBeans · 05/09/2017 23:21

I know that this is always wheeled out but have you tried cranial osteopathy?

It's ££££££ but the results appear to be excellent.

I send you a big hug too x

GreatBigPolarBear · 05/09/2017 23:21

Sounds horrific.
Could you try co sleeping again?
How are you doing the CC?

GreatBigPolarBear · 05/09/2017 23:23

Tbf it does sound like silent reflux. Have you tried/have you pushed for ranitidine?
I also used the vibrating bouncer for a couple of hours peace

LittleBirdBlues · 05/09/2017 23:23

One of mine was a really bad sleeper, waking every hour every night. It's the hardest thing I have ever done.

Is there anything that does work? Buggy, car, noise, sling...? Anything at all? Never mind helping him sleep, at what moments during the day does he not cry? Just wondering if maybe there are some clues in that...

Does he sewm gassy? Bloated? My DS used to have tummy aches. A warm pillow and laying him on his tummy used to help.

My brother had a fluten intolerance as a baby, have you looked into that?

Osirus · 05/09/2017 23:24

If my daughter is over tired (not napped for ling enough in day usually) she wakes a lot at night. I think trying to get him to nap in the day, however you have to do it, might help?

My daughter is 14 months and co-sleeps, so I'm afraid I have no other advice.

Poor baby though, he can't be happy with such a lack of decent sleep. I hope it changes for you soon.

NeedMoreSleepOrSugar · 05/09/2017 23:24

Does he sleep any better during the day? Or in a sling/on you / in a chair or car seat?

Sympathies, lack of sleep is torturous!

LittleBirdBlues · 05/09/2017 23:24

Gluten not fluten...

MakeItRain · 05/09/2017 23:25

My HV said it was "normal" and I should leave her to cry. My doctor diagnosed silent reflux at about 4 months. Symptoms are arching/coughing/choking/ bad breath/ being permanently hungry (to wash the acid down) or else not feeding much at all. But there were no "checks". He just listened and diagnosed and tried the medicines which had spectacular results! Does your baby have any symptoms, as well as disrupted sleep?

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WomanEmpire · 05/09/2017 23:27

Sadly he can now escape his bouncer. He is reaching all milestones and he feeds well always has done.
He hasnt got any of the symptoms of SR but I agree that he must be in discomfort to be this bad.
Our bond is very good and when he's not over tired or it's not nap time/bed time he's a very happy boy. He's just started walking in the last few days!
I think I might resort to Cranial osteopathy. We don't really have the money for it but I am desperate to go to uni!!

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Blahblahboo · 05/09/2017 23:27

You need to push for ranitodine . Don't let them say nothing is wrong because it clearly is

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