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Parents involving children in row

116 replies

Rebecca1971 · 05/09/2017 21:57

I was angry this morning with DH. To fully explain I have to give a little background (sorry this may actually get quite long).

I normally get up at 6, walk the dog, sort out some washing, school snacks and get myself ready before I wake up DS at about 7.15 and then DH at 7.30 - because he refuses to have his own alarm and will not get up until and unless I wake him. DS has to leave the house by just after 8 to make it to school on time.

This morning I was running late as we'd only just got back from holiday and I was tired after the long journey (when I had done the vast majority of a 13 hour car drive as DH doesn't like to drive). So I got up at 7.10 and as a result struggled to get all sorted in time. DS was asleep and hiding under the covers and when I checked on DH at 8 he was in bed reading. I asked him to get up and help me. I reminded him of the time and said DS had to be out of the house in 5 minutes and needed to get ready and could he help make some kind of breakfast (sandwich) that DS could eat on the way to school. Not great but there clearly was no time for proper breakfast at home. When DS finally struggled out of bed the set of school uniform that I had laid out for him to wear didn't have pants. I asked DH if he could please find a pair of pants (no pants left in usual drawers as just returned from holiday). DH response was that school clothes are my responsibility. He also would not make sandwich but said DS should eat cereal at home. I said no time (which there wasn't, clearly!) and grabbed a cereal bar and a few raspberries in a Tupperware box to eat on the way. We were a few minutes late for school but not too bad, teacher was fine when I apologised.

I was highly unimpressed about the whole situation and rather than letting this pass I decided to send DH an email (talking would just have resulted in a shouting match). I kept the tone of the mail calm and said that he needed to reflect on not being selfish and that reading in bed at 8 o'clock when we had a joint responsibility to get our son to school was not on.

So that's the background. Now what I'm really upset about is that when I came home from work DS told me 'daddy is upset with you about this morning'. I said, oh so what did daddy say. DS at that point didn't want to elaborate, probably feeling caught between his two parents. I thought about what best to do for a few minutes, then decided (rightly or wrongly) that it was better to have it all out in the open and asked DH in DS presence what he had said to DS about this morning and that really this was between us. He said (again in front of DS) that he told DS after school that I had been totally unreasonable in the morning, had stormed out of the house in a self righteous manner and that I had an anger problem.

At that point I had to bite my lips not to cry. Not out of anger but out of sheer sadness that he cannot be a father first. My overriding ambition is always always not to let children know of parents' rows and certainly not making them take sides. It's a terrible position to put a child in and no child should have to feel they have to take sides when their parents have an argument.

This is not the first time DH has behaved this way. He doesn't get these parenting principles and seems to think it acceptable to involve children in our differences of opinion. (And that's leaving aside the issue of not getting out of bed in the morning and helping me get the household organised).

What do other MNers think? AIBU?

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missmollyhadadolly · 05/09/2017 22:20

YANBU. So getting the children up, getting them ready, getting them breakfast is all your responsibility?

As well as getting your DH up?! He refuses to set an alarm?!

What responsibility does he have?

I could not bear him.

ChasedByBees · 05/09/2017 22:21

He's obnoxious. What does he contribute? Does he do any parenting?

Clutterbugsmum · 05/09/2017 22:22

Why the hell are you still there.

Your life (and your DS) will be so much better without him.

He sit's on his arse while you run around after him.

Tell from tomorrow that he is now a grown up and will be responsible for everything and anything which has relied on you doing. That you will now only be looking after yourself and your DS.

Spell it out to him that you are not his mother, you were his wife and partner but you are seriously reconsidering due his behavior.

wilkos · 05/09/2017 22:23

Arse. Stop waking him up for starters, who is he? Louis XVI?

ILoveDolly · 05/09/2017 22:23

Actually if he won't use an alarm clock then you should just let him sleep in. He is an adult.
I'm annoyed on your behalf that he won't help with the children but I'm more surprised that you actually let him behave like a baby.
My husband wouldn't know where to find pants for the kids either, its the rest of your dhs behaviour that's more surprising.

cailisto · 05/09/2017 22:23

Are you married to my sorry excuse of a husband/father? Sounds horribly familiar (and a situation I am working towards getting myself out of).
Massive hugs. Unless you're in a situation like this, it's very easy to say 'what a prick/leave the bastard' but the reality is often far far harder/more complicated and very draining :( xxx

NoSquirrels · 05/09/2017 22:24

More info, OP.

Sounds like he was home before you - does he do pick-up & you do mornings? ie in the usual run of things it works fairly?

If so, do you work much longer hours than your H? How is that imbalance catered for- does H do most housework/cook dinner ( & you do breakfast for example)?

Why have you let it persist that you do 100% in the mornings AND wake up a grown man?

Tbh, regardless of the usual division of labour in your house, I'd want to divorce the fucker for the "anger issues" comment. Twat!

cailisto · 05/09/2017 22:24

She probably doesn't 'let him' behave in a certain way. She probably has no choice and trying to make the best of a shitty situation.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 05/09/2017 22:26

He is a grown man. Let him get himself up. What age is DS?

goodeggsarehardtocatch · 05/09/2017 22:26

Your husband is a dickhead, I'm sorry but wtf ? You both have a child, so you both have to work together. Don't wake the cunt up or if you do I suggest putting the vacuum outside the bedroom door turned on and walk away Grin
As for dragging ds into the argument that's really twatish

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 05/09/2017 22:30

Your H is an utter arsehole. Even more so for involving your DS in this manner.

Rebecca1971 · 05/09/2017 22:33

Thank you all for your heartfelt replies.

Just to clarify a few things so that I'm not being unfair. The main point of my post was the involvement of DS in our argument and feeling let down by lack of help on one particularly stressful morning. I gave you the background to the morning routines so you could see how it all fits in with our usual routines. To complete the picture and to answer a few Posts who asked 'what does he do/contribute to family life' I can add this.

I work in an office job in town and have to commute, I get home sometime between 6 and 7 normally. He works from home and picks up DC from school at 3.15 (when his work allows) or from after school care at about 5/5.30pm. He does homework supervision after school because I come home too late to do any of that. (No he doesn't sort out washing the PE/swimming kit or taking the dirty snack box out of the bag) but at least or DS is at home at a decent time in the afternoon instead of having to go to extended after school care on a regular basis.

So in that sense I suppose he pulls his weight as a parent? Or am I blinded?

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Boatmistress17 · 05/09/2017 22:37

Op so much so you need a labrador. .

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 05/09/2017 22:38

No he doesn't appear to pull his weight with ds.

charlestonchaplin · 05/09/2017 22:38

Your husband was wrong but you don't seem to see that you did the same thing. Why would you do that? Why not speak to your husband privately? It would seem the obvious move. Instead you made a bad situation about ten times worse. If your objective is to keep your son out of your arguments, how well do you think you have achieved that?

goodeggsarehardtocatch · 05/09/2017 22:40

Rebecca your blinded I'm sorry but you are ! Dh works 12 hour days with a 1hour commute either side. He cooks, puts the washing on does all the ironing and will sort out anything his dd's need. Because we are a team. You need to be firm about what you need him to do

NoSquirrels · 05/09/2017 22:48

In answer to your AIBU - no, FFS, of course you're not being unreasonable. It was absolutely shocking parenting to have told your DS that Mummy was cross, self-righteous, anger issues etc.

You were wrong to continue the argument with DH in his presence though. Two wrongs, and all that.

If I had sent my DH an email like that (& sometimes it's the best way to communicate) I would expect an apology, or at least an agreement to discuss it later after DC in bed.

If DS was upset enough by your arguments this morning to bring it up again with his father after school, hours later, then you have problems there. If DH brought it up himself with DS that's awful too.

All in all, not good.

And no, supervising homework & pick-ups is not a fair division of childrearing & domestic labour if you do everything else.

Rebecca1971 · 05/09/2017 22:50

Tilapia and Charleston: I thought about what to do when DS gave me to understandthat he knew about my email to DH about this morning. The reason I decided to bring it out in front of all was that I didn't want DS to manipulate/misrepresent what had been said against me. (Which has happened before.) I may have been wrong about this and it may have been wrong. I'm sorry. I just wanted us all to be upfront. No manipulation, no ousting of me. DS has taken to side with his father in situations like this. No surprise I suppose

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MyPatronusIsAUnicorn · 05/09/2017 22:53

No he doesn't pull his weight! He literally brings his own child home then does nothing and leaves all the stuff for you to sort later. I bet you do the lions share of everything in the house as well as working.

He is a twat. I'd have no respect for an adult like this.

balsamicbarbara · 05/09/2017 22:55

DH sounds like a lazy git but DS also sounds old enough to make his own sandwich in a pinch and if he can't be bothered he can go hungry till lunch.

Wolfiefan · 05/09/2017 22:58

Yep. As PP said. You need a lab. Or a white stick.
Don't wake him up. Stop treating him like another child.
He needs to step up or move the fuck out. What kind of relationship model is this for your child?!

Ellisandra · 05/09/2017 22:58

There's so much else going on, but on one point alone... please can you tell me why you wake your husband because he refuses to have an alarm?

When did you decide that being his skivvy was what you wanted from life?

I cannot fathom this.

mickeysminnie · 05/09/2017 23:00

How old is your dc?

Gooseberrytart4 · 05/09/2017 23:01

So what are you going to do? What will you change?

JoJoSM2 · 05/09/2017 23:02

Your husband does sound awful. Totally wrong to use your son to manipulate you. He does sound like a spoilt, entitled man child and a terrible role model for your son.

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