To expect high schools to provide lockers?

[houseinthecorner]

My daughter starts year 7 on Thursday in her high school but they don't have lockers so my child had to carry her cost, PE bag, books and folders ect around with her all day. Am I being unreasonable to expect a Locket to be provided so she can at least store her coat? And other things ?

I don't think it's a case of 'survivng' without them. they are just very handy and nice to have.

It's one of those things that would be nice, sure. But it's not very necessary. We all managed fine without lockers.

I'm not at all defensive, I was only explaining how it worked and asking a question

I think we have a little failure of imagination for some people: I can fully understand that there will be plenty of schools where lockers are not necessary and/or not workable, but some people seem unable to imagine that other schools may absolutely need them due to very different set ups?

My older kids are at a modern High School (in Scotland, not America) and the school was designed with lockers. Older schools do not have them as standard and haven't often got the room to have them retrofitted. Lockers are great for leaving heavy coats and PE kit, but aren't always terribly convenient depending on where they're located in the building.

I went to a high school 20 years ago with over a 1000 pupils. We didn't have lockers, as you might imagine.

I still end up carrying my kit with me as an adult - laptop, notebooks, lunch, coat....

We only had lockers after the third year of secondary school but we all had our own hooks to hang PE kit and coats on. I had to travel 15 miles to and from my school and many others also had long treks it would have been totally unreasonable for the school not to provide them.
Fast forward and My eldest son started year 7 last September and no he doesn't have a locker or coat hooks of any kind, I feel it is really disappointing as lunch time sports or music clubs are held every day but he wont get involved as he would have to lug his kit/trumpet around. His school has loads of space so the reason they give that there is no room seems ridiculous but tbh just one of the many rules that i have taken issues with. The teachers have actually complained that the kids have too much stuff, and one complained that their PE kits stank in the hot spell in the spring (I am sure they did too) in their lessons so I have no idea what they expect them to do.

Indeed, happypoobum. I always marvel at the few teens with coats imagining they have some kind of super-mum or -dad who manages to get them into coats in the morning. Those people should be diplomats and use their amazing talents to sort international crises.

Both DD's schools do not have lockers - they have learned to take only what they need for each day. Stops stuff getting left at school that may be needed for homework etc.

oh, and mine wear coats because they - in DD15's own words...

"don't like getting wet, and aren't covered in wool like the sheeple"

Well i apologise, it wasn't meant to be. I was just surprised and wondering why that would be the case. I didn't realise it was bad form to ask questions.

Went to a comp. No lockers

Yes you are and it's a minor issue, so minor it's not even an issue.
Are your diamond slippers too tight?

We used our lockers daily at school!! Was very useful, especially for me as i kept my riding clothes in there (my day was home-stables-school-stables-home)

Only on Mumsnet could provision of small lockers be characterised as some kind of outrageous "featherbedding" type demand

It's not. That isn't what was objectionable

I think you're actually just being rude to me now and I have no idea why you keep at it. If you look again I was merely responding to you, and perfectly politely. I'm going to stop doing so now though as you are makign me uncomfortable and I find your tone objectionable.

The school I went to had lockers and coat pegs outside the classrooms. It was a large school. 10 form entry. We used both and also carried stuff about. My DC's school has lockers but does not let them carry bags about. That took a bit of planning. Managed it but was a bit fumbly at first and kept leaving stuff behind.

Why are people so dismissive of the fact that some schools are, in fact, large. I went to an upper school with ~1500 pupils (and we all had lockers). My kids' secondary school has ~1300 pupils, and it's vast. It's spread across about five buildings.

Things outside your realm of experience do actually exist!

Am a bit at the taking-up-space thing. Ours were organised by formyour locker was in your form 'home' classroomso would only have been 25-30 in a room, 40x30x30cm each. Accessible before/between/after lessons. I have no idea whether my school was unusually spacious--built in the '40s in a New Town, so 'spect not. No way would I have wanted to leave things in an unsecured desk: I left an exercise book behind by accident once, and when I found it again every picture had extra male genitalia added .

Also a bit at the idea that the school should seek to ban kids from wearing things (hoods), assuming it's on the journey to/from, rather than at school/during the school day itself. Surely the school's reach doesn't extend that far?

Teens generally don't wear coats for school but the no hoods thing seems a bit odd. Not unusual to carry stuff around

We didn't have lockers but we did have a peg, so you could at least get rid of your coat and PE bag.

Why no hood on coats? That seems weird to me.

lso a bit shock at the idea that the school should seek to ban kids from wearing things (hoods), assuming it's on the journey to/from, rather than at school/during the school day itself. Surely the school's reach doesn't extend that far?

Oh it does! We are only allowed the school coat, no other. Uniform must be worn home, there are rules about behaviour on the way to and from school etc...it's draconian!