AIBU to think £62.50 is expensive for a 7.30am-6pm nursery day?

[DanielsandLukesmum]

I'm absolutely shocked.

That includes food, nappies and wipes.

There are the huge chains and the people who have ended up on dragons den from it yes, and they're definitely the exception. But I know someone personally (a family member) who only has 5-6 nurseries and has a couple million quid house and 4 girls at private school simultaneously. You only need a few of those in each county to overtake the market.

We pay 42.50 p/d
I think it's awful. They must make so much profit and pay their staff so little. Most places get away with paying the absolute minimum, filling out gaps in staff with apprentices who can literally be paid peanuts. If they're lucky enough to find a teacher desperate enough to work in one they can use a 1:13 ratio which means they need even less staff!

We pay 42 pounds per day for a toddler in the 2-3 room. All food and nappies included. This is in Brighton at an Ofsted 'Good' nursery so I think that sounds a lot.

As a society, we get what we pay for. My DC went to nursery in a high-tax country. We paid 100 euros a month for reliable, caring, non target-driven care from 8-2.

I'm in Scotland so the regs are a bit different, albeit similar, but here all staff have to have, or be working towards, a relevant qualification. That can include apprentices but I've experienced enough inspections to know that the inspectors generally consider the experience level of the staff as a whole and would be concerned (and mark down) for having too many unqualified and inexperienced staff.

Even assuming you're paying minimum wage over a 10 hour day, that's two children's worth of your fees gone. Before you pay for premises, heat, light, food, nappies, cleaning equipment, admin staff, toys, craft stuff, trips, parents who don't pay...

Most are not making massive profits. Most are not filling out their staff with apprentices. Those which are, are shit, not the norm.

10 and a half hours per day. Assume 3:1 ratio means £190 ish per day for 3 kids. That works out at just less than £19 an hour.

That £19 an hour needs to include a key workers wages which probably takes around half. You then need to factor in a percentage towards wages for other nursery staff who don't have a child assigned to them like managers, cooks, cleaners or any extra staff taken on to maintain ratios over lunch/breaks. If you have staff off sick or on holiday and need agency staff the staff cost jumps hugely.

There are also the running costs of the building so rent, utilities, rates etc as well as ongoing costs such as decoration and replacing toys/equipment.

Finally the cost of food, nappies and other ongoing essentials.

It's not cheap to run a nursery.

We were paying £50 per day in 2005, so not at all surprised. When you break it down hourly, it's great vfm though

What nurseries charge isn't the problem, it's people's wages in proportion with the cost.

Very close to what I pay for my 17mo. Doesn't seem expensive to me (in SE not in London)

I think it's excellent value for money, these are your kids you're talking about.

We pay £40something a day. But I know someone in another part of the country who pays £80something a day. I think it all depends on location.

"But where does the money for the subsidies come from? Parents who don't use childcare? People who don't have children?"

I don't have children. Children and their parents are just as much a part of society as I am, and I am quite happy for my taxes to be used to subsidise childcare. I hate this isolation mentality, as though having children is some daft little hobby women (predominantly) insist on so they can't expect any sort of support with it, rather than an essential part of our society

Ours is £75 per day so... no

I pay £60 for 8am to 6 pm and bring my own nappies. Yours sounds cheap to me!

I pay £55 a day for our nursery, includes all food, snacks and nappies and is in Worcestershire open from 7.30 - 6pm, works out something like £5.20 an hour which I think is pretty reasonable, because I'm fairly sure babysitters charge more per hour

HerSymphony, also, the government aren't subsidising childcare out of the goodness of their heart. It makes economic sense, because more women return to work and the tax revenue they receive is greater than the subsidies paid out.

Just to clarify; I'm agreeing with you and adding a point to yours rather than arguing against you.

We pay £75 per day for my two sons, aged 1 and 3. That's with a outstanding rated childminder in West Yorkshire who provides all meals and day trips. Very lucky

I've been looking at nurseries and childminders in Bromley recently and they range from £60-£85 a day. All 730-630, some provide everything and others expect you to provide nappies, wipes and sun cream.
The Nursery DD is in currently, in a small town in Kent is £38 a day all inclusive so was a bit of a shock!

I'm £45 a day from 830-5. I provide nappies and wipes and I pay a £6 fee 2x a year for Christmas and birthday presents

I'm also in Essex and the nursery my twins attend is the same price and also outstanding. That includes breakfast, lunch and tea, snacks and nappies. The staff are amazing and worth every penny but yes it's not cheap.

I pay more per day in childcare than I earn. I work 6 hours per day but need childcare for 8 due to commute. £116 per day for 2 kids. Tax credits pay 70% £81.20. I pay £34.80. I only earn £54 per day.

Very envious of those who could choose not to go back to work. As a single parent my only options are get into debt or sign on.

Less than £6 per hour. Cheap!

We pay £60 so day for our 14 month old, that includes food but not nappies and wipes. We are in the SE. All the nurseries I looked at were £60 a day or more for under 2's.

I'm another who pays more than I earn. Twins and another older preschooler all at nursery means my nursery bill is bigger than the number at the bottom of my payslip. I get by with tax credits, childcare vouchers and child benefit (and just hoping for the best)