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AIBU to think my son's name isn't that hard to pronounce?

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SailorByTheSea · 02/09/2017 22:57

Or is this an acceptable pronunciation!?

We live in London, so 'fear' is 1 syllable (this is relevant!)

My son is called Theodore... You know, 3 syllables, 'The-uh-door'?

All he gets is 'fear-door' Angry please tell me that this isn't an acceptable pronunciation? It makes me regret his name massively Sad

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SayNoToCarrots · 03/09/2017 18:50

Eastmidsmummmy sometimes people from London come here. Sometimes I go to London. It's funny, now that you mention it, they do speak differently! I still can't hear a distinct Jane/Jane divide.

Do the Mancunians you've heard come from central Manchester?

EastMidsMummy · 03/09/2017 18:58

My Aunty Pam lives within half a mile from The Angel, Islington. My mate Andy from work comes from Manchester. I don't know exactly where in Manchester. Does it matter??

The point is, one pronounces Dave closer to Dayv and one pronounces it closer to Dairv. Both are the correct pronunciation. You may not be able tell the difference between a Mancunian saying Jane and a Londoner saying Jane, but everyone else can. (If there are people who can't hear the th/f difference, this should not be surprising.)

Ummmmgogo · 03/09/2017 19:18

southerners generally say jayN. northerners generally say jaeeyn. does that help carrots?

CheerfulYank · 03/09/2017 19:26

Fuckability I wouldn't mind if I were in Wales and people pronounced my name that way. It is Welsh after all :) (I once inadvertently offended a mother when she said all her children had Irish names. I said that Megan was Welsh and she was FURIOUS. Shock She has seven kids; I can't remember them all but there's a Connor...and I think a Joel Hmm )

Bear rhymes with fur?! How? I literally cannot manage it.

Of course clerk and smirk rhyme to me...

SayNoToCarrots · 03/09/2017 19:27

It matters because in central Manchester we say Dayv not Dairv.

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2017 19:30

Just asked Bradford born dp to take himself back to his youth and say Jane. He said Jaaaane. With a very long flat a sound. I say Jayne- a very "bright" short a.

CheerfulYank · 03/09/2017 19:31

And yes, can definitely attest to T's being D's in America. Wadder for water etc.

I know lots of little girls called Peyton and the T is usually dropped altogether. "PAY-uhn." It's not exactly that, there's still a ghost of the t at the end of the first syllable. One of my mindees was called this and I used to emphasize the Pay-ten but I think I was the only one who did.

NotACleverName · 03/09/2017 19:31

Eeh bah gum, there's some right snobbery on this thread. Some posters need to remove the sticks from up their aarrrses and let people live, ffs.

SayNoToCarrots · 03/09/2017 19:31

Ummmmgogo thanks, I think I understand the second one but not the first.

EastMidsMummy · 03/09/2017 19:32

Well done, you. Does that alter the point that different people in different places pronounce the same word differently and it's all fine?

SayNoToCarrots · 03/09/2017 19:32

Bertrand now a Yorkshire Jane is a different kettle of fish.

Montsti · 03/09/2017 19:33

Sorry not helpful but this is why I don't like the names Theo, Thea & Freya as the mispronunciation would do my head in...I'm from the South of England...Feo, Fea, Fweya (I realize the last one isn't quite the same as it's a problem for people who can't pronounce "Rs" properly...)..

I would assume Theodores would be referred to as Theo or Teddy at some point in their life...difficult to avoid that...

EastMidsMummy · 03/09/2017 19:34

Bear rhymes with fur?! How? I literally cannot manage it.

Say 'bur'. You managed it.

SayNoToCarrots · 03/09/2017 19:34

EastMids I never said everyone pronounces everything the same. I said a Mancunian Jane didn't sound that different from a London Jane.

A word pronounced differently is fine. A name pronounced in a way the person named is not happy with is not.

Ttbb · 03/09/2017 19:37

It's ridiculously easy to pronounce. Do note though that many children cannot pronounce th until they are a bit older and say an f sound instead. Also worth noting if you live in a nice part of town that when upper class people say Theodore it can sound as if 'theo' is said as one syllable because they rush their vowels. It's quite likely that their children haven't learned to make that minor inflections that a vowel only syllable requires. Alternatively if you live in a particularly less than nice part of town a lot of lower class people just can't speak so you can't expect them to pronounce anything properly.

EastMidsMummy · 03/09/2017 19:50

A word pronounced differently is fine. A name pronounced in a way the person named is not happy with is not.

I don't agree.

Yes, don't call someone Helen if she's called Helena. But people talk differently. The poster earlier who wasn't happy that people dropped the H on her son's name (Harry) was being ridiculous,

Sophiealice95 · 03/09/2017 19:56

YADNBU OP.
It is my pet hate .
I cannot bear TH being pronounced as F
I also hate the supernanny pronoucing specific as pacific
and lots more .....Hmm

CheerfulYank · 03/09/2017 19:58

Oh I see East Blush yes that would make sense, I was trying to turn fur into fare, because bear and bare are the same to me. :o

XiCi · 03/09/2017 19:58

I'm really confused now. How can bear not rhyme with fur?

JassyRadlett · 03/09/2017 20:00

I can't figure out whether Ttbb is serious or parody. I think this thread has broken me.

JassyRadlett · 03/09/2017 20:02

Bear to rhyme with care, fair, mate, lair, and tear (I hope most of those are similar to you!)

Fur to rhyme with Sir, cur, burr, spur. (Ditto!)

GoingRogue · 03/09/2017 20:06

I have a Theo. When he was born and I told her what his name was, she replied "oh. But all the uneducated people will call him Feo!" Hmm

I loved the name Rafferty for ds2 but avoided it because we're in the South West, where people generally don't pronounce the letter t when it's in the middle of a word. It would have made me wince to hear people say "Raffer - glottal stop - ee".

I feel for you OP!

XiCi · 03/09/2017 20:07

Yes Jazzy, I have a master's degree so have heard of those words thank you. I take it you're very familiar with the word patronising

There is very little difference in sound between fur, fare, fair, spur, care etc certainly not enough to say they don't rhyme. I imagined some strange pronunciation like beear or something the way people were going on.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 03/09/2017 20:11

There is very little difference in sound between fur, fare, fair, spur, care etc certainly not enough to say they don't rhyme

Fur and care are COMPLETELY different to me,don't rhyme at all.

XiCi · 03/09/2017 20:13

OMG Jassy, apologies for my post, I read your comment as 'familiar' to me not 'similar', I thought you were being snarky. It's been a long day Smile

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