To ask where ethnic minority Brits holiday in U.K.?

[CluelessBint]

I know I'm going to be flamed for asking this, but I can hardly ask irl!

I live in south devon in a very popular holiday area. The area is very white middle class. I noticed a few years ago that almost all the people who holiday here are also white Brits. Since noticing this I keep wondering where all the ethnic minorities British people go on holiday.

I travel to other south westerly holiday resorts a lot with my work (hotel industry) and it seems to be the case there too.

If 82% of the population are white, why are at least 95% (a rough estimate from looking out at the harbour the last few days) of grockles white?

From the Midlands I mean and thats meant to be a lighthearted comment as we are the nearest seaside.

Once holidayed in Southwold when my then boss offered my family free use for a week.

I remember walking to get to an ATM when a white woman said loudly to two teenage kids she was with "things have certainly changed around here". I turned as was within earshot and saw her pointing straight at me. I was the only black person in that whole street.

Of course I can never be sure if she was talking about me but that moment has stayed in my mind since and no doubt influences our holiday destination choices within the UK.

From what I can gather there is a great deal of 'othering', with stares or uncomfortable silences when visiting places outside main UK cities.

I'm from a big multicultural city but live in rural North Wales and don't know any non-white people, bar those from the curry shop. We see the odd Indian family here on holiday, they've said the mountains remind them of home. A PP was right, they must feel like complete lepers here.

Ethnic minorities often take time to go abroad to see their families
This ethnic minority has just returned from North Devon. I did not get stared at, had a lovely time and even noticed other non white people having a nice time.

That said we tend to visit France a lot

Friend (Indian Sikh ethnicity) mutters darkly about "Brownie Free zone" wrt North Norfolk... not sure she's been back, since. I think her husband (white English) was more offended than she was, about how people seemed to stare at their kids.

I really wanted to walk around downtown Nairobi by myself but felt very self conscious as only about 1% of people had my skin colour. Wish I had been braver!

My parents went to PR-China in about 1987 & said that getting stared at by circular crowds, very close up, was pretty unnerving, far worse than I bet any person of colour has experienced in UK.

"I know we have less ethnic minorities to start with, do you think that can make it seem less attractive to other ethnic minorities considering staying here?"

Yes.

BAMER extended family and colleagues report a higher number of incidents that demonstrate unfamiliarity with diversity in very rural areas.

The whole UKIP / Brexit thing has I think made the perception of a welcome in rural / farming areas worse. Rightly or wrongly.

Blackpool

It will be a less attractive option not only because of the weather but also because of food. Eg if you're Muslim and go to Devon, then you're halal options will be limited + none of my Muslim friends go into pubs. But if they travel to Dubai, Turkey or Egypt (I know it's been a bit tricky most recently), they'll be able to eat almost anywhere.

Also, an English person might have grown up going on holiday locally so perhaps that's why they find it attractive. Personally, I find places like Devon good for a spa weekend or some sightseeing but of an actual holiday, I'd expect hot weather + warm water or snow and skiing in winter etc - England tends to struggle to offer that.
It's nice to have a real change of scenery to feel like you're actually away, eg Spain or the Maledives etc

I've been on trips this year to the north east coast (Scarborough etc) and the Lake District, and there were plenty of British ethnic minority families there. Mostly with northern accents. If you live in Manchester, Leeds, Bradford etc as many people do then Devon is really, really far.

Well DP and I went to London twice and are going to centre parcs next week so...

I've holidayed in the SW, and rural Wales, and deepest Norfolk, and the Scottish Highlands, and the Lake District, and the NE, and so on and so on... and also abroad. We're a mixed ethnicity family.

Sometimes people stare. Sometimes people stare in a hostile way. More often, I think they just stare in an interested sort of way (or maybe they think I'm a mail-order bride).

Not a lot I can do about it either way, unless I and my kids stay at home all the time, and we actually want to see nice/interesting places around the UK, so we go and do it.

'I think many first and perhaps second generation immigrants aren't quite so wedded to the British idea of an annual holiday.'

And your assumption is based on what, exactly?? Believe it or not, other than the fact that many of us ethnic minorities are actually British, the concept of annual holidays is not exclusively British. Your assumption is a classic example of ''othering'.

Being stared at when you leave the capital is no fun and horrid for the kids

You do know there are non white people outside London right?
It's not all fields and people wearing Joules and Seasalt outside the M25 you know.

TheElementsSong same here.

It's a very interesting question.

I live between 2 quite accessible cities in the south. Many lots of diversity and it's marvellous.
We travel to Dorset for holidays and when I've gone a little further along to Weston even me (typical blonde pasty white British woman) gets stared at in certain places Frome because I'm not local. Even in Dorset (fairly rural) there is an obvious lack of diversity.

I can imagine it makes people from ethnic minorities feel very uncomfortable.

I actually understand why they feel that way. We have places in one city near me that the white British feel uncomfortable entering and get stared at!

I wish everyone could just live without this feeling of being an outsider. After all every human is just bone, muscle and DNA with a different shade of skin covering it:

Bridlington, third week of July. Eveey single minority group in Britain go together without fail, apart from 2005 when they gave Morcombe a whirl. The Sephardi Jews enjoyed it, but the Scots-italians and Chinese-Trinidadians thought it was very expensive for what it was and the beach wasn't up to much, the Nepalese didn't mind either way. So next year it was back to Scarborough They all book a coach and travel together because it is cheaper.

Also, what about people with brown hair, where do they go on holiday? What about those with outy bellybuttons? Or VW Passat drivers?

Stupid question gets a stupid answer.

In the UK we tend to visit DH family in Scotland in winter which is obviously cold. So then when we go on a real holiday we like to go somewhere warm/hot. My family, in place of origin, has pretty much died out and its not a touristy country so we aim for equtorial countries. Although zika has pretty much killed that off for now.

i was at Cheddar Gorge last week, and commented to DH that it was really great that for once not every holiday maker was white British - saw and spoke to a mix of families and ethnicities.

Were a mixed family (Asian / white - Muslim with hijabs) in South Wales at the mo and seen other Asians and Muslims here too, actually commented to dh we spotted quite a lot. We have been other places before where we've been the only ones. Generally been treated okay though!
We have been to some seaside places before where we've driven in to the area and it's looked totally non diverse and loads of England flags and said to dh like oohh hope this will be okay! Then been proven wrong with really nice welcoming service

having spent 2 weeks recently in the SE I would hope they go overseas, the rain, oh the RAIN.

Last time I went to Devon (about 2010) I saw golliwogs for sale in a local shop, so...

Halal meat is a no no for me, on animal rights grounds, so no, I wouldn't holiday anywhere I was assured of halal meat. I eat veggie on airlines, to avoid the issue.