To ask where ethnic minority Brits holiday in U.K.?

[CluelessBint]

I know I'm going to be flamed for asking this, but I can hardly ask irl!

I live in south devon in a very popular holiday area. The area is very white middle class. I noticed a few years ago that almost all the people who holiday here are also white Brits. Since noticing this I keep wondering where all the ethnic minorities British people go on holiday.

I travel to other south westerly holiday resorts a lot with my work (hotel industry) and it seems to be the case there too.

If 82% of the population are white, why are at least 95% (a rough estimate from looking out at the harbour the last few days) of grockles white?

Thank you everyone for enlightening me and apologies if I offended anyone by asking. It's interesting how predominantly white areas stay that way as ethnic minorities (understandably) don't want to be the only non-whites.

It does seem to be very slowly changing around here though. I finished A levels in 2003 at a school with 1,000 pupils. We had one mixed race boy who was photographed for every single school promotional to show how diverse it was and now I can think of at least 10 who go to that school.

Places can change though. My fil moved from Iran to London in the late 70s and used to get spat at in the street, his face definitely didn't fit at that time. He moved up to Glasgow as someone told him Scottish people were far less racist and much friendlier :) Nowadays London is much more multicultural than Glasgow. Although Glasgow has remained friendly, liberal and tolerant - imo anyway.

I don't often choose places like that just because I know I'll likely be stared at. There isn't much hostility usually, and people will often still be friendly, but I just hate the staring.
My mum is white and she always tells me to go anyway because the more non white people go there the less they'll be stared at, and obviously she's dealt with it too on family holidays when we were younger, but still.
Some of my family and friends have even been approached by people asking for pictures! Can't deal with that.

clueless don't worry it wasn't you who was offensive at all. you asked a valid question xx

North Devon this summer there were lots of BEM families in our campsite, which was great to see, and great to chat about our beloved London which we miss.

My poor kids who hardly ever see any diversity where we live now did stare quite a bit at a couple of ladies on a boat tour (wearing face covering Hijabs), and then my son asked a lot of questions very loudly as the boat was noisy and he is generally very loud anyway. They would have heard him. I answered his questions as best I could but I did feel a bit uncomfortable about it, especially as I couldn't see their reactions and because he basically wanted to know if they were Ninja's, and if not why were they wearing Nike air max trainers. He's 5.

I'm so sorry for anyone who has experienced this. And if you've been on the receiving end of my childrens type of questions, are you happy enough for the parent to answer the childrens questions, or would you rather I politely redirect the questions for you to answer, or would you rather I tell them that we'll talk about it later. Obviously if any of the questions were offensive or rude I'd have had stern words with him, but they were very innocent. I'm guessing each person will have a different preference.

Not CP, I'm pretty certain
I was there last year with a Chinese friend and while we were in the ( crowded) pool she pointed out that she was the only non white there.
I honestly hadn't noticed but maybe being white I wouldn't

Not quite what you were asking but I did see pictures of visitors from Saudi at Blackpool! Apparently it is very popular with them!

My friend is black and got stares in Eastbourne!

Oh and I have seen quite a few indian and West Indian families in Brighton and Southend but I realise these are 'almost London'.

But that prickle of sensitivity that drive you to 'whitesplain' diversity and deny that people might actually get stared at? Imagine living your whole summer holiday with people making all sorts of assumptions and comments about you.

Exactly. And to be honest I was trying to downplay the actual reality. I think if many MN

The small town my family live in, in Hampshire is predominantly white ( I really notice that, coming from London!) but I have seen quite a few Indian visitors and a few black ones too.

TheresSomebody when it's kids that young looking it's a bit different. They stare at different people but are usually taught not to over time. I think most would understand curiosity too. I do get the staring in a way, if people haven't seen something before they'll often look. For me personally overhearing questions might be uncomfortable at first, but when you hear how the conversation is going and it's just a curious child and a parent answering questions in a non judgmental way and explaining differences I relax a bit more. Many children, and even adults, have approached me to ask things before too and I've never minded, nor has anybody I know.. if they don't ask, they won't know, and better to ask somebody irl than to Google and find all sorts of stupid websites spreading rot. It's much better imo if people just ask and find out instead of just looking at others like some strange species and never finding out anything about them or just remaining ignorant to basic facts.
I like it, and I love to see a parent teaching their child too. Each generation seems to be getting less racist and mixing more, that doesn't happen by people never finding things out about each other and without parents doing what you do and answering questions but shutting down anything offensive or rude.

On a side note. I haven't ever been camping as an adult because I was worried about being the only non white family. When I went as a child I loved it, but the only other non white people were people I'd come with. Might consider it for next year now. Can't wait!

Posted too soon. I think if many on MN knew the extent to which many people of colour can't wait to get behind the sanctuary of their own front door on a day to day basis they would be unable to handle the reality of how things really are in this country. I am British born and highly educated with a good disposable income. So I have a choice. And I choose to get out as often as I can. Not paying 5k+ to be anyone's zoo animal. Children in my family have been stroked/hair pulled/ignored/complained about (intimidating) you name it whilst at 'family friendly' resorts and cities all over Europe. Just the other day in Portugal we had to actually acost a taxi driver to take us back to our hotel having spent a day at a water park. They just kept waggling their fingers at us and saying not for you...... Eastern Europe is a NO GO (been all over hat place through work. I would never bring my children there). We now holiday in Asia/Africa/Caribbean/north and South America/Canada. You get my drift.

DH (mixed race South African) and I have been to Devon a couple of times. When we go to Torquay to visit friends (also mixed race) it's fine and we don't get stared at a lot, but we had a horrible experience in Ilfracombe. We were walking through the town one evening heading out for dinner and a bunch of young blokes in a pick up truck drove slowly past us, staring. They drove round the block and came past us again, jeering and making racist comments. It was horrible.

We are not actively avoiding the SW because of that, but we won't be going back to Ilfracombe in a hurry

Lots of British Asian, Black & Haredi Jewish people holiday in the Bournemouth area, lots often stay at the chain hotel near me and lots come to watch the Airshow..

Llast year on the beach watching the Red Arrows were thousands of people including many ethnic minority people who had northern & London accents, there were in front of me groups of women in niqabs next to orthodox Jewish ladies in wigs, plus there are obviously the local ethnic minority people.

The red arrows seem to draw massive crowds

I live in very orthodox jewish area and never notice women wearing wigs

We have a large Haredi community here and lots of women wear wigs & or headscarves

They shave their hair on marriage

It's an Ashkenazic tradition that some of the very Orthodox Jews follow

There's nothing wrong with starting a thread like this, it's good to talk. Lots of interesting stuff on the thread which will help people understand.

This thread is beginning to sound like a game of "spot the minority person".

A lot of my British/Pakistani friends go to Dubai for holidays or on European city breaks

Foniks do it!! (camping). It was great fun. The one we went to allowed open fires which the children loved toasting their marshmallows on, and it was on a working farm so the gang of kids each morning collected eggs, said hi to the piglets etc before usually putting on a show for us.

We've been to a few on the cool camping website and they've all been good

And thanks for the reassurance re my sons comments! :)

My neighbours are black, and for any long holiday they always go to Jamaica to see family. (Much more sensible option for August than holidaying in the UK!)

I'm in Brighton and it's a mix of all different ethnicities.