To think theres a lot of classism on here?

[HalfShellHero]

Not a thread about a thread but i suppose several? I do appreciate the demographic of mumsnet is unlikely to be people of lower socio economic class and lower education levels but there really is a very daily mail feel about mumsnet atm in some of the views ive been here about 8 years on and off and its more noticeable now? I'll give myself a biscuit but i get influxed

whereas in reality believing the daily mail is an indicator of being poorly educated...
Are you suggesting our Dear Leader was poorly educated? She went to a grammar school, in-between being a vicar's daughter and trampling crops, and then on to getting a 2nd from Oxford, in Geography.

What's wrong with being middle class?

I hate the class system . We are all mere human beings trying our best to get by .
“We come into this world alone, and we leave the same way, the time we spend in between ... time spent alive, sharing, learning ... together ... is all that makes life worth living.”

From what I see is the middle/working/lower classes don't mix in daily contact

So seeing something that is socially acceptable in one given area stands out in another

I wouldnt feel comfortable in a high end restaurant for example and would stick out like a sore thumb - but in a local costa nobody would at an eyelid at children playing/talking etc

Very classist with some posters being treated differently if their literacy is poor. Lots of disapproval of certain lifestyles eg lots of kids, unemployment and benefits. Also a lack of appreciation that some posters are not leading a middle class lifestyle eg low income, social housing, digs about 'Jeremy Kyle'. A recent thread about Facebook posts which bragged about gcse results with posters believing that grades below A*-B were worthless made me feel that many people on here are living in a completely different world from me.

I wouldn't touch a Costa or a high end restaurant with a bargepole . I am too mean careful with my hard earned not Daddy's money , does the fact I am careful with my money make me middle class? Only I am council house stock yet I was a degree level nurse before I took early retirement , the boundaries are blurred .

I believe about 10% of what I read on here at the moment.

I don't think it's a class thing.

I've been here, on and off, for years and I don't think it's changed much.

There's just a wide cross-section of people here with varying opinions life experiences.

Lots of disapproval of certain lifestyles eg lots of kids, unemployment and benefits

And lots of disapproval about private schools, houses larger than you need, expensive holidays, and cars that cost over a certain amount. What's your point?

It definitely does, Sun

Lots of disapproval of certain lifestyles eg lots of kids, unemployment and benefits.

Is that a class thing, though?

I think, perhaps wrongly (?), that disapproval of particular lifestyles transcends classes.

The whole country is obsessed with class. The BBC is. Royal Family and honours list. Dukes and Lords and Sirs. This country is about the most class ridden in the world IMHO. Nothing to do with the DM. It's from the top down.

I thought everyone on Mumsnet HATED the Daily Mail? It definitely doesn't represent most of the views which I read on here. Agree it has a Guardian slant these days which never used to be apparent. I quite like the Guardian by the way

I'm with derxa I believe perhaps 10% of what's on here

Remember all the millions of pro-Corbyn threads around the time of the GE

Well it is understandable with all the Tory failure:

• No plan Brexit getting worse and worse
• Debt still exploding
• Services being slashed for ideological reasons
• Public safety no better at all
• Housing market a wreck
• Private debt increasing greatly as well

Yes there is a lot of competitive poverty on At the moment

If you can say that while knowing some people are actually in poverty on here, then yes, we have a problem.

The threads about tampons and sanpro, posters refuse to accept that there are people in this country who can't afford it. They're simply not budgeting properly.

I notice it a lot more intolerance people who are well-off than poorer people on MN, tbh. Sometimes it seems like people who are well off, go on nice holidays, earn a lot etc. are not allowed have any challenges or problems in their lives because they have money.

Even this thread... "well if you read the DM you're not educated so..."

YANBU OP Ive seen plenty of comments on here saying that social housing tenants should be grateful And comments from mortgage holders saying how they have to pay for their own boiler breakdowns and trying to say that this is worse.

I find it goes either way. Poor bashing or seemingly not grasping how poor people can be. Or bashing anyone who has an luxury at all.

I find there is far more bashing of private schools, holidays etc than poor bashing.

I agree, OP. Especially after the DM has published a few "articles" taken from mumsnet threads, sometimes it feels like we are part of a Jeremy Kyle show or the middle ages when we put people in the stocks.

steely And the insistence that the girls from poorer families should use mooncups.

Because men telling women what to do with their bodies is oppressive but women telling other poorer women what to put in their bodies is fine and dandy!