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To be a bit suspicious of this woman? And WWYD?

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GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter · 30/08/2017 00:22

Bit of an odd one, but basically want to know what I should or shouldn't do about this.

Firstly, bit of background. My grandparents; had 3 children. My DM is the oldest (late 50s), then middle child is 2 years younger (A1) and then youngest is 2 years younger again (A2). My grandmother died in 2011 after my grandparents had been married 40+ years (not really relevant). Between the 3 children there are 8 grandchildren, but sadly only 5 of us are still alive. There is also now 3 great grandchildren; my DD and my cousins 2 step children who are considered Great Grandchildren.

A2 has a best friend, who also has children (4 I think), we'll call the friend L. L and A2 have known each other for years and are the same age. My grandmother didn't like L so wouldn't let her come to any family events or treat her any different to any other friends. GM once told my DM that she though L was trying to get close to us as my Gdad has a lot of money; nice house (5 beds which will be worth around £600k where I live), several private pensions+a state one, nice car etc. When my GM needed end of life care Gdad put her in the most expensive hospice he could find, paid for a private nurse for her etc basically no expense was spared because there was no worry about how it would be paid for.

Then when my GM died everything changed. L suddenly became centre of the family, organising GMs funeral, calling GDad "dad" and getting her children (well the 2 I met) to call him "granddad". It all seemed very sweet and innocent for awhile, L had apparently never had parents, so it seemed like she'd just made a family for herself.

I started to become suspicious of her after my cousin died in 2014. Cousin was A1s only DD, and she had several disabilities and issues. L made out like she'd been the most important person in my cousins life, crying over the coffin at the funeral, posting on Facebook how painful it was to lose someone who was "like a daughter to her". I know for a fact she had only met my cousin once, I spoke to my cousin daily and considered her my best friend. A1 also told me at the funeral that the public display of grief was upsetting for her as cousins DM. A1 had words with L, but L made out that A1 was being UR and told her that she loved (cousins name) and will miss her loads. A1 has avoided her as much as possible since, and agrees with my suspicions about her.

When my DD was born in 2015, L told my DM told my mum that now she was a grandmother she wouldn't want to bother with an old man anymore and offered to take the days caring/cleaning my DM did for my Gdad so she could spend time with her new grandchild. Each of the 3 sisters help take care of my granddad 1-2 days a week now he's very old (in his 80s), they clean, cook and help him with anything else such as replying to letters or making phonecalls. All of the sisers get a small amount of money from my Gdads pension as a thank you for helping plus it boosts the income of my DM and A1 who're both now single and working in low paid jobs (I don't know exactly how much but it's between £100 and £200 per week each). DM declined Ls invitation so instead L decided she was going to help my GDad herself on 1 day a week. He told her he didn't need anymore help as between the 3 children and his grandchildren he had a week covered but she insisted. So she does his ironing for him. GDad pays her for this but I know it's only a very small amount and nowhere near what he pays his children.

She's always posting photos of herself and my Gdad on Facebook saying how he's her favourite person ever. She also posts photos of her and A2 saying how they're sisters and they love each other - there's never any mention of my DM or my A1 in these posts.

She's calls herself "Aunty L" to my DD, but never makes the effort to see us without my GDad and won't even tell me where she lives. I only know where because my SIL gives her a lift home sometimes and SIL told me (but she doesn't know SIL is my SIL IYSWIM because we have a common surname). She refused to come to my wedding due to money issues, but when my GDad said he'd pay for her to attend, and also give her money for drinks she could suddenly come and got very drunk with her +1 who I've never met before and never seen her with since. Similar happened at my DDs christening, she couldn't attend until my GDad offered to pay then she turned up got drunk with an unknown +1 and only spoke to Gdad and A2.

A1 and I think she's trying to be written into my GDads will. It's widely known in our family that each of us his daughters will get a share of his house after IT, and that his GC will share his life insurance (worth around £500k) after funeral costs, and that he's left a sum of money to each of his Gr GC (about £10k each).

AIBU to think L wants my GDads money, my GM knew this and was why she kept her at arms length? And if so WWYD about it? A1 and I have both warned my DM, A2 and GDad but they seem to think she's a "sweet woman" whose just helping out.

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MiniCooperLover · 30/08/2017 10:34

How old is she? Is there any likelihood she is trying to be more than just a help to him?

MiniCooperLover · 30/08/2017 10:35

And I don't mean she's being kind, is she trying to get in with him so she'd over ride children, grandchildren in a will?

MapleLeafRag · 30/08/2017 10:36

Unless she's actually your GD's illegitimate daughter, how did L suddenly become the centre of the family and what has your aunt A2 got to do with it?

I think your Mum and A1 should get together and somehow sideline L out of the way.

I agree that you should find out if you can whether L is trying to get POA for your Grandfather, or other toeholds in his financial affairs.

MadamePomfrey · 30/08/2017 10:38

Why was she invited to you wedding and your dd's christening? Aunts friends aren't typically on the guest list for occasions like that! She maybe after money she may just want to be part of the family either way I would withdraw it's very possible your grandad indulges her because he thinks she's important to you all!

ditavonteesed · 30/08/2017 10:43

shes A2's partner.

KeepServingTheDrinks · 30/08/2017 10:43

it seems to me there's more than one thing going on here.

RE the money aspect. It's your GD's money, and he can do with it what he wants.

It's the use of titles that would really get to me. Someone who isn't family assuming the status of someone who is. (which might be for financial gain, as suggested but could be because she wants a bigger family unit or to feel she 'belongs' or a combination of reasons).

So I would be concentrating on dealing with that aspect and get other family members to help you. Also, between you, you could all squeeze her out as you're all there helping and supporting him in any case.

If she gets involved with him romantically, though, you're all screwed, and that might be her aim. that's the one area where you can't step in.

SnowiestMountain · 30/08/2017 10:47

Not RTFT by the pool on holiday but is L actually your grandads daughter??

Neutrogena · 30/08/2017 10:47

Your relatives have a right to leave money to whoever they want.
Trying to bend the will sounds very grabby.

strawberrisc · 30/08/2017 10:49

divaontoseed no, her friend. Unless you're trying to be funny.

DiscoDiva70 · 30/08/2017 10:50

Maybe she is your Aunt 2's partner, and your A2 is keeping quiet whilst encouraging L to get close to your gd in the hope she'll also be included in the will, which in turn A2 benefits more.
Not sure if that made sense!

Oly5 · 30/08/2017 10:52

Yanbu. I think you need to talk to your grandad and agree that you're going to ask L not to pop around anymore. Then tell her yourself that you think the family just needs some privacy and time alone. It doesn't matter if you offend her.
A your grandad of sound mind? There's no chance he would actually write her into the will is there?

WipsGlitter · 30/08/2017 10:57

Why did she need money to attend a wedding and christening? That's really odd.

And to clarify she's just your aunts friend?

What does your grandad think of this all?

Madwoman5 · 30/08/2017 11:05

Nanny cam...oh yes. One of you be there on ironing day and cheerily look up as she walks in and you are just finishing up. All that is needed is a "no need, we have this covered from this point. Thanks for your help". Gd is too polite. If she kicks off and tries to find something else then politely re emphasise "I said we have this covered". If the worst comes to the worst, explain that gd has x kids, x grandkids and enough cover and she needs to back off now...thanks for your help and all that but we have it" she sounds lonely and has been allowed to adopt herself into your family. Your sil (?) Needs to explain that her behaviour is not appropriate as a friend and is making otjer family members as well as herself, uncomfortable. Your family has enabled this and now they must handle the consequences.

Madwoman5 · 30/08/2017 11:06

I meant, Aunt.

JaniceBattersby · 30/08/2017 11:12

He can leave his money to whoever he wants to, surely?

This all sounds like you're trying to protect yourself rather than him.

MapleLeafRag · 30/08/2017 11:30

He can leave his money to whoever he wants, but there is something fishy about all this. Firstly that his late wife had the measure of her, and once she died then she made her move to become the "hub" of the family.

ditavonteesed · 30/08/2017 11:36

Not being funny, from the description the assumption I would make is that they are [partners and don;t want people to know.

NoodleNinja · 30/08/2017 11:50

I think everyone is being a little unreasonable here. Your mum and aunts for taking such a big amount off your GD for doing things that they should be doing anyway. You for counting where all the money is going to be going when he dies. All of you for not saying anything to L about overstepping her mark. L for being a gold digger. And your GD for allowing her into his life when he knows his wife didn't trust her.

PeaFaceMcgee · 30/08/2017 12:56

He can leave money to whomever he chooses. It's none of your business. He obvs doesn't hate her.

I was also thinking she's A2's secret lover.

GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter · 30/08/2017 14:55

Sorry i didn't come back last night fell asleep.

A2 is married, she also has 2 sons from her first married and this is her 2nd marriage. Her H is lovely, helps out where he can and also has his own elderly parents who they help out with (although they're not as old as GDad).

L is as far as I am aware just A2s friend. My Gdad is far too nice to ask her to go away and my DM thinks L is nothing to worry about. The only person who thinks she's suspicious is A1 alongside me. I'll have a chat with my A1 to see if she can take over any more jobs.

I admit I shouldn't know how much is left in the will but GDad told me and I posted it for illustration of how much money my GDad has. I suppose L could be romantically involved with my GDad, I hope not though GDad is 84, DM 55, A1 53 and A1 and L are 51. Of course if that's what my GDad wants and I was 100% sure it was I'd support him.

I love my GDad and of course don't want to think about his Will whilst he's still here, I'm just worried for him, I don't want him to get himself in a position he doesn't want to be in or where he feels obliged to give L money as "part" of the family.

I think it'll be easier for A1 to have the chat with my GDad about his Will, as she can ask if her DD and my other 2 cousins who're no longer with us are still written into the Will, as she has wishes for the money that should of been her DDs and one of the other cousins (he was her son).

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LizzieVereker · 31/08/2017 08:45

I also think everyone is being a bit unreasonable here. L does sound a bit of a pain, but your GD can spend time with and money on whomever he likes. I understand that you want to protect him, but is there any reason to suggest that he's becoming vulnerable or struggling to make his own decisions? Why are people suggesting PoA when there's no indication he needs that support? The suggestion that everyone is discussing and raking over Grandad's money is really distasteful to be honest. It's his money, and none of anyone else's business.

hairuptoday · 31/08/2017 09:02

It doesn't seem to me this is all about money though. L has interfered where some family members don't want her doing that, they see it as their role, and they're wondering what's in it for her when they are already around to help. I would wonder the same thing.

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