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To be a bit suspicious of this woman? And WWYD?

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GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter · 30/08/2017 00:22

Bit of an odd one, but basically want to know what I should or shouldn't do about this.

Firstly, bit of background. My grandparents; had 3 children. My DM is the oldest (late 50s), then middle child is 2 years younger (A1) and then youngest is 2 years younger again (A2). My grandmother died in 2011 after my grandparents had been married 40+ years (not really relevant). Between the 3 children there are 8 grandchildren, but sadly only 5 of us are still alive. There is also now 3 great grandchildren; my DD and my cousins 2 step children who are considered Great Grandchildren.

A2 has a best friend, who also has children (4 I think), we'll call the friend L. L and A2 have known each other for years and are the same age. My grandmother didn't like L so wouldn't let her come to any family events or treat her any different to any other friends. GM once told my DM that she though L was trying to get close to us as my Gdad has a lot of money; nice house (5 beds which will be worth around £600k where I live), several private pensions+a state one, nice car etc. When my GM needed end of life care Gdad put her in the most expensive hospice he could find, paid for a private nurse for her etc basically no expense was spared because there was no worry about how it would be paid for.

Then when my GM died everything changed. L suddenly became centre of the family, organising GMs funeral, calling GDad "dad" and getting her children (well the 2 I met) to call him "granddad". It all seemed very sweet and innocent for awhile, L had apparently never had parents, so it seemed like she'd just made a family for herself.

I started to become suspicious of her after my cousin died in 2014. Cousin was A1s only DD, and she had several disabilities and issues. L made out like she'd been the most important person in my cousins life, crying over the coffin at the funeral, posting on Facebook how painful it was to lose someone who was "like a daughter to her". I know for a fact she had only met my cousin once, I spoke to my cousin daily and considered her my best friend. A1 also told me at the funeral that the public display of grief was upsetting for her as cousins DM. A1 had words with L, but L made out that A1 was being UR and told her that she loved (cousins name) and will miss her loads. A1 has avoided her as much as possible since, and agrees with my suspicions about her.

When my DD was born in 2015, L told my DM told my mum that now she was a grandmother she wouldn't want to bother with an old man anymore and offered to take the days caring/cleaning my DM did for my Gdad so she could spend time with her new grandchild. Each of the 3 sisters help take care of my granddad 1-2 days a week now he's very old (in his 80s), they clean, cook and help him with anything else such as replying to letters or making phonecalls. All of the sisers get a small amount of money from my Gdads pension as a thank you for helping plus it boosts the income of my DM and A1 who're both now single and working in low paid jobs (I don't know exactly how much but it's between £100 and £200 per week each). DM declined Ls invitation so instead L decided she was going to help my GDad herself on 1 day a week. He told her he didn't need anymore help as between the 3 children and his grandchildren he had a week covered but she insisted. So she does his ironing for him. GDad pays her for this but I know it's only a very small amount and nowhere near what he pays his children.

She's always posting photos of herself and my Gdad on Facebook saying how he's her favourite person ever. She also posts photos of her and A2 saying how they're sisters and they love each other - there's never any mention of my DM or my A1 in these posts.

She's calls herself "Aunty L" to my DD, but never makes the effort to see us without my GDad and won't even tell me where she lives. I only know where because my SIL gives her a lift home sometimes and SIL told me (but she doesn't know SIL is my SIL IYSWIM because we have a common surname). She refused to come to my wedding due to money issues, but when my GDad said he'd pay for her to attend, and also give her money for drinks she could suddenly come and got very drunk with her +1 who I've never met before and never seen her with since. Similar happened at my DDs christening, she couldn't attend until my GDad offered to pay then she turned up got drunk with an unknown +1 and only spoke to Gdad and A2.

A1 and I think she's trying to be written into my GDads will. It's widely known in our family that each of us his daughters will get a share of his house after IT, and that his GC will share his life insurance (worth around £500k) after funeral costs, and that he's left a sum of money to each of his Gr GC (about £10k each).

AIBU to think L wants my GDads money, my GM knew this and was why she kept her at arms length? And if so WWYD about it? A1 and I have both warned my DM, A2 and GDad but they seem to think she's a "sweet woman" whose just helping out.

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Italiangreyhound · 30/08/2017 00:55

GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter I would not trust her. She siddled into yuor granddad's home to 'help' when he said he did not need any. She used his money to attend family evens and get very drunk (at a Christening) and she just does not sound very trustworthy.

Your grandmother didn't trust her and that should be enough for your granddad.

Is she just wants to 'help' lots of charities are looking for volunteers all the time.

If she just wants to be one of the family, she can do so by being a friend to everyone, she doesn't need to do house work or get paid. It's all very odd.

Italiangreyhound · 30/08/2017 00:57

HeebieJeebies what a really horrible thing to say. Maybe the granddad knows he will leave all his money to his children and grandchildren and would rather see them enjoying that now.

LucieLucie · 30/08/2017 00:58

She does sound like a gold digger.

Anyone who says there too skint to attend anything is asking for handouts in my opinion. No shame.

Surely he can't have very much ironing needing done. I'd get together with the rest of the family and make sure every day/time was covered and all jobs done so she's pushed out. Change the locks too.

I'd maybe even go as far as to install a nanny cam actually to see what she gets up to. There's got to be something in it for her, or so she hopes.

GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter · 30/08/2017 00:58

Heebie Excuse me? My DM and her sisters, are GDads actual children, and do actual jobs he needs help with. They've never forced themselves on him or ever asked him for money, he pays them for a job they do.

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PaganGoddessBrigid · 30/08/2017 01:00

yeh, come on! its a bit different for goodness sake! my parents often try to give me money. Sometimes I take it and I am grateful. But if there was somebody else wandering around their house calling them mum and dad and taking handouts, i would be really distressed, and not because it was 'my share'.

GettingWorseBeforeItGetsBetter · 30/08/2017 01:00

Lucie I will definitely suggest that to A1 who's most suspicious of her like me. I'm sure she'll happily help him. And no not much ironing, at most a few shirts and a pair of trousers. I'm sure A1 would happily do it.

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TheEdgeOfGlory266 · 30/08/2017 01:05

Heebie there is a big difference between a child helping their father out on a daily basis and him wanting to thank them and a woman who was told "I don't need the help, thank you" to forcing the 'help on someone in exchange for payment.

HerRoyalNotness · 30/08/2017 01:19

I don't understand why this woman was invited to your wedding and your Dds christening in the first place! If you are suspicious I wouldn't invite her to things to do with your immediate family at all.

Is she your aunts secret partner or something?

milliemolliemou · 30/08/2017 01:23

Yes to the nanny-cam. Make sure it takes audio.

Take over the ironing. Surely for £400 a week that could be taken on board by your relatives as you say because he's invented the job for L. He seems to be fond of her if he's prepared to shell out for her to go to weddings and christenings. So perhaps she could just go round for tea when your family are there and can still see him.

Do you know who his solicitors are? I would see them and give them a heads up and ask their advice.

If she's as bad as you think she is (and your GM and A1 agree) then she could wait until he's not quite together and get a new will signed and witnessed. She might even be really cheeky and get a solicitor and doctor round to say he was of sound mind.

Alternatively, if she's just a seriously nice person who is helping out then no worries She might even make him laugh and chat to him while doing the ironing and have no ideas about benefiting at all. In which case she'd be happy just to be there when you're all there especially if she's not doing the ironing. And she'd be happy to turn in the key she has and not be upset when you get the locks changed.

BTW have you got him signed up to an alarm system if he needs real help?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 30/08/2017 01:25

Is your father the type to be easily taken for a ride? L only gets a wodge of money if he changes his will. He might be happy enough paying for ironing and the odd party but leave it at that.

I'd install a nannycam anyway just in case because L sounds like a particularly unpleasant aunt of mine who would definitely be stealing from the house whenever possible.

FrogFairy · 30/08/2017 01:29

If L sees your grandad as a soft touch, could she even be hoping to marry him and therefore the will would be void and she gets the lot?

Sorry to sound so dramatic but stranger things have happened.

notapizzaeater · 30/08/2017 01:31

I'd set up a nanny cam and be there whenever she is there. Sounds too suspicious to me.

notangelinajolie · 30/08/2017 01:40

I would absolutely not trust this woman. Nanny Cam. Find out as much as you can about her - use PI if necessary. Be there as much as you can. Make sure his will is airtight and that he hasn't made another one you don't know about.

Todaywashorrible · 30/08/2017 01:47

Sounds like an awful lot of counting of GDad's money before he's actually dead, and not by L. Hmm

And seems like a fair few family members are being paid not insignificant sums to "help" GDad.

Help is usually provided without expectation of payment. Work, including care, in exchange for money, is employment.

quizqueen · 30/08/2017 02:20

Hopefully, it will be unlikely that your granddad changes his will- can he actually get out by himself as he appears to need quite a bit of help? There seems to be quite a lot of you in the family so you should be able to organise a rota to go and sit and chat to granddad while she irons- how much ironing does an old guy need a week! Also, as someone has commented before why are you inviting her to family events if a) she's not family and b) no one likes her!

Sprinklestar · 30/08/2017 02:57

I don't understand how you've all let this get so far, she's a classic cuckoo, leaping into someone else's nest. Isn't it just plain weird that a non-relative has involved themselves like this? How could she organize a funeral without family permission? Very odd.

Ttbb · 30/08/2017 03:00

Regardless of whether she is in it for the money or not she sounds annoying AF. Maybe just tell her a lie about how you have just found out the devesrating news that you GD house is mortgaged up to the hole and he is on the very of being made bankrupt. She whether she's still so interested in her 'favourite person' after that.

shakingmyhead1 · 30/08/2017 03:03

why don't you all gather together and just tell L to back the fuck off? simple and direct and no misunderstandings that way.

vikingprincess81 · 30/08/2017 03:13

I'd be making sure she gets no alone time with Gdad. If her intentions are honest, then she'll be happy to do his ironing/keep him company with another family member around.
She sounds like a gold digger to me OP. How shrewd is Gdad? He sounds lovely, and as if he wants to make sure everyone is ok, but sounds like she's taking the piss.

SticksOutLikeDogsBalls · 30/08/2017 03:54

I am sure your GM would have talked to him about keeping L at arms length.
Maybe if you, your DM and A1 talk to him about your concerns? He may believe that she really is 'like a sister/mother/whatever' to you all.
He could possibly just be keeping her around for DD and DG's relationships, or what he has been lead to believe (by her) that they are.
On the surface the nanny can sounds like a good idea but would GF not consider it a huge breach of HIS privacy?

sykadelic · 30/08/2017 04:10

I'd perpetuate a "test" of sorts, if everyone is willing. Talking about how everything is in a Trust, GDad is out of money, can not longer pay for tasks, going to be moving soon, have to sell the house/stuff to pay the bills. See if she continues to help out.

TroelsLovesSquinkies · 30/08/2017 08:07

Does GD know that his late wife used to sat she didn't like/trust her?
I'd pop by on days she's there ironing, see what else is going on and the nanny cam sounds like a great idea.
She does sound like a gold digger.
I think I'd talk to GD about her being there and how GM didn't want her around at all. That GM had a point with how she is being.

PickingOakum · 30/08/2017 08:38

How on earth has your aunt's best friend managed to weedle herself into your family to the extent she planned your grandmother's funeral and began to refer to your grandfather as "dad"?

Why have neither your mother nor other aunt said anything about this over the years? Why did your grandfather pay for this woman to attend your wedding and your child's christening? She's not a relative or a partner to any of you.

To me, this all sounds really bizarre. If my mother died and my sister's friend tried to get involved with planning the funeral, she would be politely told where to go. And that would be the end of all contact.

RestingBitchFaced · 30/08/2017 08:51

Stop inviting her to things for a start!

SonicBoomBoom · 30/08/2017 08:53

Well she's set the groundwork already with your grandad about being so poor she can't afford to go to the christening and wedding with him giving her money. So I suspect he's already thinking about how he can help her out after he goes.

Very sad, OP.

Is he still in charge of all his faculties? Or would a Power of Attorney arrangement be worth looking into for his own protection?

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