To be shocked at how many overweight kids there are here?

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Have got my fireproof hat in place, here goes...! I'm currently at a Butlin's-type holiday park on the south coast. As you can imagine, it's jammed full of kids of all ages. I'm genuinely shocked at how many of them, from pre-schoolers to older teens, are significantly overweight. I don't think puppy fat can be used as an excuse for all of them. Thinking back to my childhood, overweight kids were the exception, not the rule, but now it seems the opposite. I have two children who by no means have a perfect diet, and eat more chocolate and watch more TV than I thought I'd allow, but they're active too and don't seen to have any fat on them at all! Maybe they're just "lucky", I don't know. But the sheer numbers of chunky kids made me feel quite sad.

i meant i find some of the comments on this thread judgy.

I had quite bad visceral fat Helena. Skinny fat they tend to call it and scary. Ten year olds who are really big will be storing that up for the future or their teens certainly - it will no longer be the main preserve of the middle-aged.

im still annoyed that Burger Kings were/are in hospitals. And my links further back also mention that Greggs Subway and Costa are still in some hospitals.

Translation..............Visceral fat doesnt matter because it doesnt show.

I KNEW someone would take this the complete wrong way and try to insinuate that I meant if they dont look fat it doesn't matter , if you actually read it in the context of the conversation instead of twisting my words you'll find I was discussing that people can eat what they want without putting weight on if they limit the calories. I was not implying that it's okay to do so.

And I know you're one of the offended because you always are and have been since I've been coming onto this site. I can guarantee I'll see your username whenever there is a discussion re. weight and weightloss. I know how much you've struggled with weight and weight loss which is why you speak about it a lot and we hear the same story in every weight loss thread, which is also why you're one of the offended. I hope that answers your question.

Doom there are people who have visceral fat who have never been physically big. My size 8 friend is one of them She has clogged arteries and has had a heart attack.

But hey shes a size 8 so looks good so it doesnt matter right?

And i agree with Olivander Tess H and Ashley G are completely different sizes yet are spoken off like they are in the same group Yet you wouldnt put Kate Moss in the same group as a size 14 woman yet KM and the size 14 woman would be closer in size than Tess and Ashley are.

Its the way of putting women over a size 10/12 all in the same group Its ridiculous.

Men dont do it.

dame I feel like a right thicko for never making that connection. Thanks for that, makes much more sense now!

You don't have to justify yourself because Helena I can honestly say you've worked your bloody arse off to do what you've done, please don't feel like you ever have to justify yourself. Losing it is just one hurdle in my eyes, its the maintenance thats the second battle so for you to have done that is an achievement in itself.

I wouldn't have either if I hadn't been such a physical wreck with my arthritis Titanz - I did a lot of research. That 'Wheat Belly' book I mentioned was the first step tp feeling better, then LCHF really helped me. I cannot say it works for everyone but it has worked for me - I can carry on working when I really thought I'd have to give up.
Food has worked better than traditional medicine for me.

Titanz I think youve done bloody well too. I promise you though once youve hit your target (you may have already) and youve done maintenance for a while you wont want to eat what you used to. Your body wont crave or want it at all. DH eats jafa cakes jam tarts chips etc and i dont want any of it (though ive never liked jam tarts anyway) It DOES get easier.

And ive only confessed this once here before. Im married but have been asked out a few times.

Being the way i am now makes me feel a sense of sexual power that is what helps.

Thanks Helena and I'm praying you're right! I've got right into going to the power training lately so have had to deal with a diet shift to allow for muscle repair and all that malarky so currently getting used to that - I have allowed myself these very lovely peanut butter protein bars I can't go off weight anymore because of the training but haven't got much to go, I had 6lbs of fat left to take me perfect weight so I'm probably nearly there now. Never letting myself get big again.

Oooo get you misses! It is kinda nice to see that your hard work has paid off in the eyes of other people!

There is nothing wrong with wanting to feel attractive and be attractive Helena - anyone who says otherwise is not actually telling the truth.

you are power training so you need the protein. i eat a lot of eggs.

its being more confident as well. And with confidence you also stand up for yourself more..

Helena, congrats on your weight loss. . I had no idea that Burger Kings were allowed in hospitals, how do they justify it? Once I lose the 3 stone, I need to lose, I'll never let myself get that big again. I am also going to order the wheat belly book and watch the documentary that has been mentioned in this thread.

Stars you will be fine And tastes do change Last Twixmas i gave two boxes of biscuits and a yule log to the local homeless shelter. Just didnt have the taste for them i did have some of another yule log but didnt have the taste to keep on eating like it I allow myself Christmas Day and Boxing Day off the wagon and go back on on the 27th.

Basically i indulge on special occasions only like ppl used to.

SongforSal You are doing a great job, my heart goes out to you. There is nothing more heartbreaking that seeing those we love, who are vulnerable having their feelings crushed and not being able to prevent it. Wish both you and your such much strength.

Titanz I think that the problem with treating it as an addiction is that no other addiction is necessary.

No-one needs drug, cigarettes, alcohol or gambling; so all treatment is geared to stopping completely, whereas you can't stop eating completely (well you can, but that's a different problem).

Maybe compulsive eating should be framed as an illness to be treated, rather than an addiction to be conquered.

Apart from medical conditions, obesity is the result of people not accepting they shouldn't constantly eat throughout the day on top of their regular meals.
Missing breakfast, picking up crisps and biscuits and chocolate to snack on throughout the morning, buying lunch from fast food outlets, more snacking during the afternoon, evening meal, ordering pizzas...wine and snacks in the evening..
Giving their kids treats every day in their lunchbox, snacks at home time before their meal then supper....sweets every day.
All this with very little walking, no playing out.
Children years ago played out ALL day. They were so busy playing they weren't complaining of being hungry or having snacks. They ate all their meals because they worked up an appetite so ate whatever meal they were given. No discussions about 'what they want'
Today parents worry that their children are hungry if they are not eating every couple of hours and get into negotiations about what they want.
Meals and eating were just a small part of the day, not a big deal or issue.
There is so much over analysing today...and denial.
Overweight kids were rare many years ago...today it's the norm.

Even ten minutes of intense activity a day can help obese children yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/ten_minutes_of_daily_exercise_can_prevent_childhood_obesity/9223944

And exercise requirements for young children aren't just three hours a day exercise but also don't let them be sedentary for longer than an hour at a time so if they're sat down watching telly or doing homework you need to get them up every hour to move around briskly. yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/education_minister_three_hours_a_day_exercise_for_kids_under_8/9150268

I used to think I was one of those lucky people as a child and teenager who could eat anything and stay slim but I later realised that back then I hardly stopped moving - up in my room I would walk in circles for hours daydreaming and even watching telly I'd be constantly jiggling my legs and moving about.

This 'genetically thin' people is a load of shite

It really isn't. My son was in and out of hospital due to him being very underweight. They monitored him, put him on high calorie diets but he was still underweight.

He is 18 now and he is extremely thin. Painfully so. That boy eats like a horse and he isn't even active. He has had loads of tests done and that is just the way he is. He puts away a lot of calories, and by rights he should not be as thin as he is but he just doesn't gain weight and he wishes he could. His diet is not more healthier than someone's who is overweight.

His father was extremely thin as well and never gained weight. He hated it. My son hates it.

I think much like many other things "genetically thin or not" applies to some people and not others. Some have to work extremely hard to be slim, others don't. Some would gain weight more easily than others. Both my parents are/were very slim, Mum genetically, Dad through an old eating disorder which isn't completely cured. My brother and I (adopted) are both big, him through eating too much and not exercising, me through having babies close together and bloating due to health problems. None of my kids are overweight, but DS1 leans towards it and finds it harder to keep to a healthy weight than DD or DS2. None overeat, they get exercise, and live the same way, so I can see how genes can play a part.