To wonder if Labour are trying to scapegoat its politicians who speak out against Rotherham/child grooming gangs?

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First Sarah Champion resigned as Shadow Equalities Minister after she wrote an article for the Sun critical of the Rotherham child abuse gang and now a Labour Councillor, Amina Lone, has been deselected after she too was critical of the gangs and supported Sarah Champion.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/17/sarah-champion-used-scapegoat-warning-cultural-link-child-sex/

It all seems a bit sinister and not very supportive of women.

Sorry *Naz, not Nazis. My auto correct having a bit of a dig.

She liked and retweeted the tweet which she later said she hadn't read.

They did it to Anne Cryer before Corbyn got a hold.

They did indeed fanny. I remember it well. A good mp, Anne cryer, though I'm not a labour voter.
Someone needs to get hold of labour before it vanishes down these various sewers.

YANBU

Labour's gone for me really.

Even so I wished Naz Shah well, I used to live in Bradford and followed the saga of her election fight with George Galloway, but my patience has run out.

I lived in Bradford when a small mob burned Salman Rushdie's book in the street.

Looking back it's a watershed in English social and political history.

Just googled it and there's a rather giggly account of the 20 year anniversary of that event archived on the BBC news website. Fascinating, as the middle classes say..

Someone I know well was involved in some of the first big anti grooming operations in Bradford. Lots of people worried about "impact on the community" and possibilities of unrest. Thankfully, that didn't stop a number of successful prosecutions. And at least when the courts get hold of this filth they do tend to bang it up for a good long time

They would be banged up longer if the judges ruled that there was an element of racial profiling of victims. Even when the abuser called the victims white trash the judge ignored it.

Thanks for your kind comments. I don't want to help less, it just made me so unwell I had to pull back for the sake of my own DC. I knew when DS asked me if I was sexist and hated all men that I had to take a deep breath and have a change of course. I still volunteer once a fortnight and work with vulnerable young men and women from all ethnic backgrounds.

It is appalling and I am scared that people think it is all sorted out now - post Rotherham, Rochdale and Newcastle but it is just the same as it ever was. Take always, shops, the park the streets. Once you know the signs you see it everywhere. This summer I've been to Blackpool, Bradford, halifax, Huddersfield, Brighton, and Blackburn and seen signs of this behaviour everywhere.

The link I attached shows the emotion, the love and the determination to help that professionals (women) working in these communities have to stop this but in my experience there is no support.

These girls are as good as anyone else, they deserve the safety and protection our children have, they are valuable and precious - why are the powers that be throwing them on the scrap heap.

Fuck I'm so upset now. My tears help no one.

Reading the metro article about naz has made my blood run cold.

metro.co.uk/2017/08/23/mp-shares-tweet-saying-abuse-victims-should-shut-their-mouths-for-good-of-diversity-6872181/

Does anyone know if this is definitely real?

Horrific MrsT at least you can look yourself in the mirror and know you did your best unlike others.

I thought the most shocking comments were police calling these girls 'child prostitutes' like it's a fucking thing!!!

Could Naz have meant that she agreed with the sentiment that girls are being sacrificed for racial harmony?? It's inexplicable she would support this isn't it? Surely to God!

I think the social worker in the Rotherham case whose name I'm ashamed to say I can't recall said this; there is no such thing as a child prostitute. There are only exploited children.
And she is right.

The whole thing is appalling. Paedophiles allowed to abuse because people are scared of being labelled racist

Totally karlos

I had a similar experience to MrsTrebus in another part of the country but with mostly Somali men.

I don't think it's just fear of racism - I think it's also ingrained and often unconcious racism that a lot of professionals and a lot of society still hold.

That there is a particular 'type' of white girl/woman that 'likes' men of different minorities (more so with Afro-Carribean men ime) and those girls or women are viewed differently than white victims of white perpetrators.

In lots of areas where I live, judgement is still heaped on girls or women in inter-racial relationships.

And also by men and women of Carribean descent being horrified that their sibling/daughter is hanging about with 'Somalis'. I've heard Carribean families say 'well, they're different to us, they're Somali/Muslim. They're dirty/stupid and backward, they come from war zones so they don't have the morals/standards we do so you should expect to be abused if that's what what you choose. Not all Carribean families think that obviously but I've heard it a lot and heard it from some families of Black British girls being victims of Somali men.

I had a British Carribean drug addict tell me there are no more black dealers in his local area anymore, just Somali. They're black though I obviously said! No, they're not our black, they're Somali.

There have been Black British/Black Carribean and Somali gang/turf 'wars' in my city and Black British/Black Carribean girls who date Somali men are spat at, verbally or physically assaulted.

Why justanother?

We are letting down a whole generation of children here; the ones abused by these Asian paedophile gangs, the often under age ones brought here to work in brothels and kept like slaves, the ones sitting in their bedrooms showing their bodies on webcams to random internet strangers and the ones being groomed for under age sex by individuals. It is all child abuse.

They are being let down because people don't apply the law. You cannot consent to sex until the age of 16 and the police should not be tolerating this sort of abuse by anyone.

It shouldn't matter what colour or religion someone is, they should be charged with rape. tried and imprisoned if convicted.

The Labour Party (together with all other political parties) should be leading by example and supporting those in the party who speak out. That retweet and disingenuous apology were shameful.

Catagoric- I agree that race is irrelevant. I see a specific pattern of abuse of vulnerable young people wherever they are not protected be it the Catholic Church, children's homes or the take always if Rochdale and Blackpool. But I was told that it was a hate crime to tell these men that they were not allowed to provide 2 looked after 14 year olds with alcohol and when I called the police I was visited and warned not the abusers (I never mentioned their race at any time)

How can people have faith in the police when they apply the law selectively?

the Naz Shah tweet story

Sorry hadn't seen MrsTrebus had posted the same.

race becomes relevant when it influences the decisions of those around. In fairness I do not blame the police when you see the treatment of those who had the courage. These animals got away with this for years as the conversation was just too difficult in the same way catholic priest hid behind the church. If you give some men the opportunity there seems to be enough of them to take it. When white men have this opportunity there will be those who will use it such as Thailand/ VIP rings but it is up to society to not allow abusers a shield to hide behind and if that shield is fear of being labelled racist we need to remove it.

I think that's spot on Bouls