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AIBU to think a ban should be in place for nuts on planes?

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 22:27

As an airborne allergy sufferer myself, it's been kind of worrying over the last few days to see an insistent few insist they don''t exist.
I suffer from one. They really do. I've seen them. Suffered first hand.
If you don't suffer from one, or know someone who has, count yourself lucky.
I have eyes swell up. Doesn't take a leap of imagination to think that throats could too if suffering a more severe reaction.
Difference with me is that I'm not hundreds of miles up in the sky away from medical access. Being in an airport/public place not comparable to being locked in an aeroplane, thousands of miles from land.

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 22:32

That thread is at an end, with some insistent posters trying to get it to finish with multiple postings.
It's a really valuable debate, and needs to continue.

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DesignedForLife · 24/08/2017 22:32

YANBU but there is already another thread on it

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/08/2017 22:33

Its closed designed

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 22:34

There is already a post going, but it's hit 40 pages and that's when you can't post anymore.
I think allergies is something we all need to be aware of. Letting it slide away means less people will read some of the important stuff posted.

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DesignedForLife · 24/08/2017 22:34

Haha, just "read" the end of the other thread. YANBU.

DesignedForLife · 24/08/2017 22:36

The ignorance of some people is astonishing. I got told that because my DC hadn't had a reaction for 5 months they weren't really allergic Hmm

Madeyemoodysmum · 24/08/2017 22:41

Agree. In the last post certain posters were trying to make the point that there were very few deaths caused by peanuts on planes. However, even so it can still cause a severe medical emergency which will require the plane to be grounded at the nearest possible point causing considerable distress to the family and the allergic person and delaying everybody else's journey. In very tragic cases it can even cause permanent disabilities. Surely having a bag of nuts cannot be more important than this issue. I would support and a ban and I also support banning selling them in airports.

I hope and pray that a cure that can be widespread is around the corner. I watch the news on this closely having a nut allergic child myself. It's getting there but needs to be quicker for all of us that live with this.

AgainstTheOddsNo2 · 24/08/2017 22:43

Dd had a reaction to dhs jumper after he had stood next to people chucking peanuts around. Yanbu.

We are lucky. She knows not to eat or go near peanuts (or any nuts because of contamination risk) but you can't control air on a plane.

I do not support a ban in all public places. Because she/we have the choice and opportunity to withdraw. I do support the ban on aeroplanes and in schools because that opportunity is not there

Papafran · 24/08/2017 22:47

YANBU. That segment on This Morning was horrible. That poor, poor, young woman and her parents. I think nuts should be banned on flights- the people who like to have nuts with their G&T can fuck off in my opinion.

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 22:47

I do not support a ban in all public places. Because she/we have the choice and opportunity to withdraw. I do support the ban on aeroplanes and in schools because that opportunity is not there*

I agree with you there, it's not the same in public places as you've more a chance of getting away from the allergen. What chance do you have 30,000 feet from land and potentially hundreds/thousands of miles from decent medical access?

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noodlesoupz · 24/08/2017 22:50

I'm 100% percent in favour, planes are a specific environment and nut allergies also quite different

But then again, we had a family friend die on a plane from a nut allergy 20 years ago. She was actually fed them when she had requested a nut free meal. Airline didn't even admit fault.

noodlesoupz · 24/08/2017 22:51

Argh didn't finish post, I meant to say I find it hard to see both sides because of that

Mothervulva · 24/08/2017 22:54

I'm amazed anyone would argue with this.

Luckymummy22 · 24/08/2017 22:54

When you say ban what do you mean? Sorry I have not read all the other thread!
Do you mean a ban on all nuts on plane?
Or just airline selling them?

I'm not sure I agree with a total ban but no issue with airlines stopping selling them.
I would now not deliberately buy something that contains nuts to take on a plane.
Just don't know how you can stop people taking them on board and what about the food a plane may serve. If it's made on lines which also handles nuts is that acceptable?

Theworldisfullofidiots · 24/08/2017 22:57

I have a nut allergy. Generally it's manageable (my fantasy would be to open a nut free patisserie). I can't see a problem with planes being nut free. After all no one is going to die from not having nuts for a few hours and I could quite easily.

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 22:59

But then again, we had a family friend die on a plane from a nut allergy 20 years ago. She was actually fed them when she had requested a nut free meal. Airline didn't even admit fault.

Sad I find it hard to see both sides because of that

Can see why that would be hard for you Sad if you say you suffer from an allergy, you expect to be taken seriously.
Being given a supposedly nut free meal and dying from it - beggars belief.

Deliberately opening bags of nuts on a plane when airborne allergies exist - so easily avoided. Airborne allergies are scary, they can make your eyes/airways swell up immediately.

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ilovesooty · 24/08/2017 23:03

In order to ensure total protection would you not have to look at banning the sale of nuts in airport outlets too?

ApuskiDoo · 24/08/2017 23:07

I have a close family member with a nut allergy.

It's made me realize how truly ignorant snd selfish people can be.

Why would your right to eat nuts trump someone else's right not to have a life threatening reaction.

StickThatInYourPipe · 24/08/2017 23:12

I'm not allergic to nuts or know anyone with a severe but allergy but I don't see the issue with banning them on planes.

Just swap for some nut free crisps or something surely?

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 23:15

In order to ensure total protection would you not have to look at banning the sale of nuts in airport outlets too?

I don't think it's a case of ensuring total protection. More so banning the sale of nuts on board a plane potentially 35,000 ft from land and medical assistance.
On ground, it's different. From what I've experienced, if you present with an airborne allergy, it will make itself known soon. How do you escape from that up in the air? Your throat will just close up but you've got ages to go until ground. You're stuck.
Bit different stuck in Waterstones at the terminal to up in the air between countries.

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StickThatInYourPipe · 24/08/2017 23:17

4961 but your missing the point, if they sell them in the airport people are more likely to bring them onto the plane.

ilovesooty · 24/08/2017 23:35

I was thinking of people buying the nuts on the ground and taking them onto the plane opening them in the plane after take off.

ilovesooty · 24/08/2017 23:36

Sorry Stick I missed that you'd correctly interpreted my point.

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4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 23:36

I'm not allergic to nuts or know anyone with a severe but allergy but I don't see the issue with banning them on planes.Just swap for some nut free crisps or something surely?

That's just it, isn't it? You'd think. There's been a few lone voices saying they have a problem with a ban on planes as it erodes their civil liberties to enjoy a packet of nuts on a plane when they feel like it, regardless of whether someone could die.

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