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to think this about UK punting

115 replies

equitation · 21/08/2017 15:41

All middle aged balding men trying to have sex with 18 year olds? I have an 18 year old DD and I find it gross. How can this be allowed to go on?

OP posts:
BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 03:45

@juliesaway UK Punting is a website where punters discuss and rate their experiences with sexworkers.

Hidingtonothing · 27/12/2017 03:46

sex is a basic human need

It really isn't. It's a desire not a need, people can and do survive without it.

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 03:49

@Hidingtonothing

Do try and quote me in the proper context.

I said:

Sex is a basic human need for many.

...did you miss the part where I said some folks are asexual and also have dwindling libido? Sex is a human need for many. Not everyone.

Hidingtonothing · 27/12/2017 03:55

Nope, quoted that way on purpose. It's not a ^need^ for anyone, it's merely a desire. Admittedly it's one which some people have more inclination to control than others but it can't be described as a 'basic human need', no one ever died from lack of sex.

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 04:28

@Hidingtonothing

No they didn't die - however people get severely depressed, lonely from lack of physical contact, emotionally and psychologically compromised, which whilst might not immediately kill someone, make people extremely unhappy.

People are not empty husks. A need is not to be dismissed because it doesn't kill someone. Needs exist to provide for continued health and happiness. This is why so many people are so horribly depressed.

Many can go for a long time without sex. Conversely, some people have major issues controlling sexual urges because their needs are negative and violent. It's a spectrum.

Some folks can participate in casual sex, some people cannot. That doesn't mean one of them needs it more than the other, it just means the circumstances in which they can do it, are different.

Hidingtonothing · 27/12/2017 04:47

Not arguing any of those points, I broadly agree with them but none of them make sex a 'basic human need' and that is at the crux of my opinion on men who use punting sites. I just can't summon any respect for men who choose to pay for sex rather than deal with their situation another way. Because it is a choice, not a necessity.

araiwa · 27/12/2017 05:01

Some women choose to accept money for sex.

Some men choose to pay money for sex.

I dont get what the big deal is

MistressDeeCee · 27/12/2017 06:22

I'd never even heard of this site until this post. So I had a look and read a couple of reviews. I didn't even see any photos of men, much less any reference to young girls. They were mostly rating experiences with mid-20s-40s women. You likely have to register to see more. No thanks.

I thought the men sounded silly. & a bit sad.

But as long as women offer sex and men are willing to pay for it, prostitution will exist. Its consenting adults so I can't get het up about it really

But I am sad that there must be desperate women who hate it, but were brought here from overseas on the understanding they'd be prostitutes to repay their fare + more on top for being brought here in the 1st place. I'm sure prostitution would be their last choice if they had other options

SporadicSpartacus · 27/12/2017 06:44

Those who consider themselves pro-sex work feminists - if it’s ‘a valid job like any other’, you’re cool with a careers advisor recommending it to your teenage daughter, right?

DoctorTwo · 27/12/2017 07:22

OP I have no interest in your daughter unless she wants to help me take down that gym or raid a Legendary. Pretty much the only time I talk to anybody unprompted is at a Pokegym.

Whisky6 · 27/12/2017 07:27

@streetlife 70s I didn't say I thought women's nipples only go erect through arousal. And I'm quite well aware they are used to feed babies with, thank you very much.
I've quit punting anyway, so don't need your unasked for
advice to continue. I'm doing other things with my time (things irrelevent to this forum, and UK Punting, but I'm sure they would fail to impress you anyway.)
@juliesaway yes it's a prostitute review website. It was a breakaway from PunterNet. PunterNet was the original, but PunterNet drew criticism from some punters for it's acceptance of advertising by prostitutes and agencies, which they felt compromised the integrity of the review system.
@BattleCunt I appreciate you point about earnings. But I hope you find your niche and earn a lot of money anyway.

streetlife70s · 27/12/2017 07:38

@streetlife 70s I didn't say I thought women's nipples only go erect through arousal. And I'm quite well aware they are used to feed babies with, thank you very much.
I've quit punting anyway, so don't need your unasked for
advice to continue

You know how public forums work right? Hmm

I’m sure the girls on UK punting didn’t ask for your opinion either but that didn’t stop you offering it on a public forum.

And sorry but you did use the fact you witnessed erect nipples as a sign the woman had an orgasm so your awareness of other reasons for nipple election is a moot point.

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 07:47

@Whisky6 I'm not a sexworker.

StickThatInYourPipe · 27/12/2017 07:50

I thought this was going to be about people punting in Cambridge in the cold.

What’s punting?

LostInTheTunnelOfGoats · 27/12/2017 07:55

I thought this was going to be about tourism in Cambridge Shock

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 07:59

@SporadicSpartacus oh please do come up with an original response to it being a valid line of work. Cos nobody's ever heard THAT before. 🙄

Once someone is an adult, they are allowed to make their own life decisions. Throwing that question about implies parents should be allowed to control what their adult offspring do. That's not how things work.

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 07:59

@StickThatInYourPipe punter = someone seeking a sexworker.

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 08:02

@Hidingtonothing how do you suggest a man with physical limitations ie disability, deal with a lack of sex life? Are they not allowed to feel pleasure like the rest of us? Does that make them sad and pathetic?

What about someone who doesn't have time for a relationship but wants intimate contact? Why shouldn't they enter into a mutual transaction for intimacy as long as both parties are happy with it? Why does that make them sad or pathetic?

Just because you don't approve, doesn't mean it's wrong.

Whisky6 · 27/12/2017 08:10

@streetlife70s not really. If you scroll back ,you'll see my comment about erect nipples was a reply to a sarcastic comment about women enjoying it , and punters being able to tell. In other words I took erect nipples as a sign of sexual arousal. Then I said only once a woman blushed across her chest, which I said I believe is a sign of orgasm.
Yes it's a public forum and you can give unwanted advice. I just said I don't need it. I don't have to accept it or be particularly gracious about it if I think it's useless or crappy advice when I didn't ask for it.
I don't think I did give the girls on UK Punting advice, asked for or not. There aren't that many girls on there. Most of the time it's punters asking for advice. Some girls do venture on to UK Punting to ask for advice, but most of the time they're directed to SAAFE (an escort website.)

Whisky6 · 27/12/2017 08:12

@BattleCunt, I apologise for my mistake.

Indigo911 · 27/12/2017 08:17

@whisky I’m sure the sex workers are overjoyed being reviewed in an overly critical way about their performance/bodies by the punters.
It’s so easy to fake an orgasm too btw. I used to do it all the time in my younger years and had my ex bf’s utterly convinced each time. I guarantee the majority of sex workers fake it every time and are complete pros at doing so.
I just don’t get how anyone can get turned on during sex knowing that the other person is only willingly doing it because they want the money from you. It would be such a turn off for me

SporadicSpartacus · 27/12/2017 08:19

@BattleCunt (great name, btw) - surely if prejudice and stigma are an issue for women in prostitution, promoting it as a legitimate career for young people would go a long way to resolve that? Also, as you mentioned up thread - if sex is a human need for some and they will become depressed without it, why not offer it on the NHS? Costs are comparable to providing counselling.

Also, as an adult with a disability, I find the suggestion that I wouldn’t be able to find a willing partner and would have to pay for it quite disheartening, not to mention patronising. I think my husband would be quite surprised too. Or is it just men who have these insatiable sexual urges that must be met?

BattleCunt · 27/12/2017 08:20

@Whisky6 no problem - I used to be a pro domina. It's just not something I do anymore. I appreciate your input here, even if some folks are being rather shite.

streetlife70s · 27/12/2017 08:21

I couldn’t care less about you being gracious. I’d hardly expect that from someone who pays girls to have sex with them. And I wasn’t really giving advice to you Hmm. But whatever. You clearly want to be pedantic but the fact remains you think girls enjoy sex with you because they get a red chest and erect nipples. My opinion, not advice, is that you’re probably better to stick with what you know.

hesterton · 27/12/2017 08:22

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