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To report her for tax evasion?

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hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 12:32

I know of someone who is making around £1k a week, but hardly declares any of her income (she doesn't pay any tax at all so declaring less that £10k of it). She also claims tax credits.

I don't particularly like this person and am tempted to report her. Problem is, pretty much all the money she receives is in cash, so is there any way that the HMRC would actually be able to prove or disprove what she's earning?

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Booboobooboo84 · 20/08/2017 13:29

If she had a job and was claiming jsa or esa everyone would be saying report her and this is the same thing. We are a community every needs to put in and take out fairly. If she's earning that much then quite frankly she can afford to pay tax on it. If people didn't fraud the tax man then there would be more money for everyone. Report her. Or message me her details and I'll report her. Anyone calling it nosy beak or unreasonable should consider its dodgers like this who are preventing more money being released to schools, the elderly and disabled (that and the Tight Connie bastards)

ibbleobbleblackbubble · 20/08/2017 13:30

So how did she get clients or customers for her products?
there must be some kind of record or papertrail to prove that she's running a business
something that HMRC can look up to get some idea of what her earnings are

mogulfield · 20/08/2017 13:30

Report her, tax evasion and fraud are not acceptable in a society where we can't afford the NHS. I extend this to rich businesses/directors who evade tax as well. They all bother me.
Tax evasion costs the government £34 billion a year.

stevie69 · 20/08/2017 13:31

^ you can do that perfectly legally!

Quite. On a good day, I do. Having said that, on a bad day, I don't Blush

LouHotel · 20/08/2017 13:31

To anyone saying not to report this; are you happy with the depletion of the NHS, education cuts and sky rocketing council tax ect?

Tax avoidance plays a large part in this. This women isnt as bad as the likes of Amazon and Google but that doesnt make it ok.

5rivers7hills · 20/08/2017 13:31

If you are pretty sure of your facts then yes, report.

Like a PP says you can do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Apparently ex-partners are the primary source of reporting personal tax fraud!

hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 13:31

A sense of satisfaction isn't my motive, so I'm not worried about whether or not I get one if I do report her.

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ibbleobbleblackbubble · 20/08/2017 13:32

If it's common knowledge that she's not declaring it a £50 k a year income whilst at the same time claiming tax credits then someone else will probably report her anyway

Mountainviewloo · 20/08/2017 13:32

What is your motive then?

JiminyBillyBob · 20/08/2017 13:33

I really want to know what she does!!

sashimiyummies · 20/08/2017 13:33

I would report her if I were sure about my facts. Not paying tax is effectively stealing. What would happen if everyone did that?

hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 13:34

She only advertises through social media, and quite often puts details of her business activity on there, e.g new contracts, so that's probably the main proof of what she's up to.

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hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 13:34

Mountain I wish I could say, but that would completely out me.

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mayhew · 20/08/2017 13:36

I work in the NHS and pay taxes. We are chronically understaffed and haven't had a pay rise (in real terms) for 10 years. People who don't pay their taxes while using our services, deserve to be held to account.

RockyBird · 20/08/2017 13:37

Does she run a dance school?

AlpacaPicnic · 20/08/2017 13:39

I would 100% report.

I would report a benefit cheat, a shoplifter, a thief so why not report this.

stevie69 · 20/08/2017 13:39

A sense of satisfaction isn't my motive, so I'm not worried about whether or not I get one if I do report her.

You said that you didn't like her and were thus tempted to report her, from which I inferred that you were seeking some sort of satisfaction from your proposed action. I don't think that it was an unreasonable assumption for me to make but I'm quite prepared to stand corrected. So ..... correct me Confused

ButchyRestingFace · 20/08/2017 13:40

Will your family relationships suffer if they find out you shopped your relie to HMRC?

That would concern me.

hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 13:41

No not a dance school, and I can completely understand how you would reach that conclusion stevie but it's really not the case. To correct you would involve telling the whole story which I can't do and keep it anonymous.

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hooveringhamabeads · 20/08/2017 13:41

I'm not related to her.

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LakieLady · 20/08/2017 13:43

I'd shop her in a heartbeat. She's stealing from all of us. And if HMRC suspect fraud, they will look closely into how she funds her lifestyle. If they think someone's lifestyle is way beyond their declared income, they will go through your life with a fine-toothed comb.

Two things about this seem odd though: what on earth is she doing where all her business expenses and income are in cash, and how on earth does she manage her daily life? Does she has to carry great wads of cash everywhere? She must have a very big handbag (or possibly several).

I rather suspect she doesn't make anything like that, but would like people to think she does.

PoorYorick · 20/08/2017 13:49

I did report a suspected tax evading business once (cash only business, no registered address) and while I don't know what happened, I slept juuuuust fine.

GinisLife · 20/08/2017 13:52

Report it without question. DWP do trawl social media checking up on claimants so they may get found out anyway. Round here HMRC ran a massive campaign against chip shops & Indian restaurants not declaring all income/profits. Their methods were simple but effective. I've sat in vat inspections on businesses where notes have been taken of suspicious looking "purchase invoices" and you know their next port of call will be an inspection of that business. You'd be amazed at HMRC methods of catching tax evaders.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 20/08/2017 13:53

Report her and enjoy it. I would if someone had been mean to me. She must have been bloody awful for your to even contemplate doing it. So I'm guessing she's just getting whats coming to her.

GabsAlot · 20/08/2017 13:53

dont know if its th same but i know someone who brags about not paying their tax coz why shold thy! thy do only cash in hand an dont declare anything

i know its ironic a this person still uses nhs etc

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