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To be fuming with the Tories and cuts

105 replies

malificent7 · 17/08/2017 06:00

Cuts to our children's schools and education.
Cuts to disabled
Cuts to welfare
Cuts to NHS
Cuts to welfare
Fucking Brexit

Apparently there is no magic money tree but it is ok to spend billions on Trident ( while we criticise others for developing nuclear weapons. )

I expect you will all be here to tell me there is no magic money tree!

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gutrotweins · 18/08/2017 23:17

I happened to talk to a woman yesterday (walking the dog!) about hospitalisation of dementia patients. She said that it was despicable that services had been cut because of immigrants 'taking all our houses and doctors'.

Perhaps she needs to look at the privatisation of social and dementia care, and the lack of cohesion between care providers??

The Daily Mail view worms its way into public consciousness...

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littlebillie · 18/08/2017 23:19

More hatred 🙄

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mirime · 18/08/2017 23:30

MaQueen I've been to a fair amount of NHS meetings and your description just doesn't ring true at all. I've not seen any dawdling, I've mainly seen more work piled on people who are already overstretched and who are having to make difficult decisions.

But that's just my experience over the last decade.

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SoNouveau · 19/08/2017 00:02

littlebillie

What hated?

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PinkCrystal · 19/08/2017 00:07

Yanbu

But there are sadly more selfish people voting them or believing their propaganda.

Anyone that votes for them has no heart

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SoNouveau · 19/08/2017 00:11

It is odd isn't it that a dental receptionist doing some day training in the NHS would know that staff deliberately dawdle and take three hours to make a thirty minute journey?
I mean, which NHS staff do this?
They should be reported to their mangers, why hasn't this happened?

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 19/08/2017 00:14

Anyone that votes for them has no heart

How grown up Hmm

I don't vote for them, bit it is this sort of ridiculous hyperbolic comment that gets people's backs up.

How dare people vote differently to you hey.

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PinkCrystal · 19/08/2017 00:37

Not a ridiculous comment to many people. Not anyone that votes differently, no. Just people that vote for a party making huge cuts to the vunerable, yes. Why would anyone do that?

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reportPost · 19/08/2017 04:35

PinkCrystal

We do it because we hate the poor, obvs! Confused

I have tended to vote Tory but not always because they align with political beliefs. I thought Blair was great in his first term. Really spectacularly great.

In the most recent GE, there's no way I could vote for the shower of shite Corbyn. I'm not a massive fan of the current Conservative government but they're much better than any alternative we have at the moment.

I also find it fascinating how irate lefties get when they don't get their own way. Protests about Brexit. 'He's not my president'. Still hand wringing now about the GE result ... as others said, grow up!

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FanjoForTheMammaries · 19/08/2017 08:08

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PeachyTheSanctiMoanyArse · 19/08/2017 09:44

I am so grateful for the systems in this country that May and her government seem to have no respect for.

With three autistic kids and having to be a carer, I am grateful.

For the specialist education that means my eldest has gone from illiterate at 11 to perfect scores on his course and a place on the a level equivalent leading to his dream career, I am grateful.

For when my husband was made redundant in his forties, student finance then tax credits allowed him to retrain and start his own profitable business. I am grateful.

For when I was rushed into hospital in pain almost two years ago and a nurse from Romania on their first shift suspected it was more than a gallbladder issue, did extra tests and rushed me into resus with acute pancreatitis to save my life- I am grateful.

For the cancer treatment my dad is receiving right now, just a year into his retirement, that should save his life - I am grateful.

For the life of my nephew currently asleep upstairs, who was born early unable to feed- I am grateful.

For the specialist ASD school staff who saved my ASD son's life when he was so low he wanted to take it, but CAMHs were too underfunded to help- I am grateful.

For the team of medical who have helped me believe there's a point to my existence during some of the darkest times of my life- I am grateful. I absolutely include some of the constant media rubbish about claimants (and carers are claimants) as part of the pressure that made me doubt it, by the way.


For my neighbour having a roof over his head despite severe mental health issues- I am grateful (he's fighting repossession through bedroom tax though, they don't have anywhere smaller to offer and who wants a private tenant with paranoid schizophrenia?).

I won't make childish comments about Tory voters or people who make different political choices to me, but I will fight to make sure my kids have the same chances we did, that people with disabilities are not left high and dry, that the NHS exists in a format that offers the same help we've been lucky to have.

For me that means not voting Tory. There are many other options.

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MaureenDodd · 19/08/2017 09:57

Not read the rest of the thread, but got as far as this and had to say something.

..I work in a private healthcare setting

You're a dental receptionist @MaQueen? Why try and make it anything than it is. I'm sure your anecdote would have stood if you'd have said "I work for a private dental practice".

The rest of your comment, what to say? I've a relative who's a community nurse. She's on this weekend and has 20 patients to try and see today alone. She will work non-stop from 9-6 (she should finish at 5) and will still have to hand some over to the night service, which she really does not want to do because a) it lets down the patients and b) it puts more work on her colleagues.

Unless I've misunderstood your point? I'm hoping I have because I'm quite cross.

I actually believe this can be solely laid at the feet of the Tory party it's decade's of mismanagement and now they can sell it off piece by piece because it isn't fit for purpose. They made sure of that.

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 19/08/2017 10:06

Not a ridiculous comment to many people

Yes it really is.

HTH

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Ironfingers · 19/08/2017 10:34

Am a police officer. Cuts have ruined it. There wasn't enough of us to do the job before the cuts and now its impossible.

I have worked Friday late shifts with three officers where there used to be twenty.

A lot of crimes don't even get investigated at all as there is no time.

I have serious assaults on my workload that are three months old because there are no proactive teams left to go hunting for the suspects.

Most shifts we have numerous "immediate" or " grade one" calls (calls that require a 999 response) that can be left hanging for over an hour as the few officers left are stuck dealing with other emergencies.

I have given up trying to pretty it up to the public.

Whenever i get complaints for being hours late to an incident I just tell them that this is our glorious prime minister's cuts to the emergency services in action.

I put the blame squarely st the foot of Theresa May who started this when she was home secretary.

The fact is, the police barely had enough resources beforehand, now they purely and simply do not have enough people to be effective.

The Tories have utterly ruined the job i worked so hard for and was so proud of.

(P.s. for the record I am not a regular Labour voter).

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LakieLady · 19/08/2017 10:48

My work involves contact with people in shit situations. Often people who are chronically unwell/disabled, being made to feel like they are frauds, and 'undeserving', when in reality they should be supported. The amount of times I have to say "it's not you, it's the system", after their benefits have been stopped.

Mine too, Dangermouse.

The benefit cap, the "bedroom tax", the nightmare that is Universal Credit - all of them cause so much grief and heartache and poverty.

Yesterday I was with a single mum of 2, who has £60pw to feed and clothe her kids because of the bloody benefit cap. Her younger child starts school in September and her older child's school has introduced a new uniform that all children must have.

She was in tears because she doesn't know how she's going to be able to afford to kit them both out by the end of the holidays.

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mothertruck3r · 19/08/2017 10:49

And £47 million on a vanity project bridge that doesn't get built. Still at least BoJo's "friends" got rich.

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LakieLady · 19/08/2017 10:54

Peachy, your post made my eyes leak, just a little.

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MaQueen · 19/08/2017 10:56

This has been some on going training since the start of the year in a different area that I'd like to move on to eventually, with travel between sites.

What I have seen, is what I've seen [shrugs] It's no skin off my nose whether it's given credence or not, especially by some of the names on this thread Grin

But, hey knock yourselves out, or not... whatever floats your boat. For some of us a happy weekend awaits...for others, another day of sniping on the internet just killing time until the sun is over the yard arm.

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SuperBeagle · 19/08/2017 11:01

Heard Ed Balls admit on an interview the other day that Labor does tend to produce "profligate spenders".

So, I mean.

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TheFairyCaravan · 19/08/2017 11:31

For some of us a happy weekend awaits..

It most certainly does. We've been on cloud nine all week since we found out that DS2 has finished the year in the top 3 of his cohort, on a first for the second year running. It's just a shame people like you have to go round making up spiteful bollocks, running him and all the other hardworking NHS staff down.

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mothertruck3r · 19/08/2017 11:40

How come we need austerity for the plebs yet the government has enough money (from their magic money tree) to give to the banks, foreign aid, rich pensioners, wars, landlords, wealthy land owners, HS2, the non-existent Garden Bridge etc. I am not a Labour supporter by any means but the Tories have shot themselves in the foot with the "do as I say, not as I do" rhetoric.

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Tanith · 19/08/2017 12:02

They're wrecking Early Years, too. Cut funding and training to the bone and now they want us to subsidise their free 30 hours promise.

Some settings have been told by their LA's to take in ironing or to offer a food takeaway service in order to make ends meet.
Nurseries and childminders are going out of business at an unprecedented rate.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/ten-things-30-hours-free-13471086.amp

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NK493efc93X1277dd3d6d4 · 19/08/2017 12:04

I thought the benefits cap was introduced so that people wouldn't be worse off by working?
Is that really a bad thing?

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MaureenDodd · 19/08/2017 12:32

MaQ: I'm thankful, owing to your reputation for an inability to tell the truth about your education/ job/family/life etc, that anybody reading any of the prettified bile you spew will take it for what it is - utter bollocks.

But anybody calling you is labelled a hater in order for you to play the victim.

You don't know what you're talking about and attending a course on botox is hardly going to give you a huge insight into the inner workings of the NHS.

Enjoy your weekend.

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reportPost · 19/08/2017 14:17

Ironfingers

Perhaps you're in the wrong line of work if you can't manage to act a little more professionally when at work. I wouldn't say I'm surprised though, based on my dealings with the police.

As a slight aside, why do some posters think a little repetition is the height of eloquence Peachy?

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