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To ask all disabled drivers to do the following?

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QuiQuaiQuod · 15/08/2017 16:17

We shouldnt have to, of course, but:

EVERY single time you go to a car park- supermarket/shopping centre etc, to complain EVERY single time to the security/help button on the ticket machine/supermarket etc .

You know what Im talking about.

Those bloodyselfish disablist C*s who park in disabled spaces. every time.

just this morning, went early to the superkarket. car park hardly used. very few cars there. a W* in a BMW pulls into the disabled bay next to mine, and JOGS into the coffee shop there . Still there when we came out of supermarket. no badge.

I go back to supermarkt (takes me ages with my mobility issues) to complain and the sucurity guy just shrugs. ''happens all the time. we issue tickets sometimes. nothing we can do. '' I said ''you have noticessaying disabled ONLY.

an elderly person heard our exchange and came up and joined in. he said he has a blue badge and hes fed up when he goes out and all the disabled bays are taken with only half of them with blue badges displayed and he cant get a space. he said he blocked someone in once and they , on coming back to their blocked car, didnt listen to him saying they were breaking the law doing that,(punched him through his open windowdamaged his car , and the police just didnt bother to take him seriously.

anyway.

pleaswe, if you have a blue badge, just complain, EVERY SINGLE TIME till hopefully they get the message.

its not about fines, half of them arent paid anyway, why cant their cars be towed away immediatley,? and pay a much huger fine.

bloody selfish and lazy.

on a slightly smaller note, the parentys/nannies/guardians who park in P&C spaces when their kids arent even in the car, their at school/nursery etc but just cos theyve got a car seat......

boils my piss almost more than enything else.

Disabled and elderly people are NOTHING to the ''powers that be''.

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GahBuggerit · 15/08/2017 17:24

That's all a very sore, pardon the pun, subject Krisp. She hasn't applied for any kind of disability benefit even though she's clearly entitled to it, something her doctor said put her off going through the process and she has other issues that would mean going through the whole process wouldn't be a good thing for her. I've tried :(

SaucyNoBrainer · 15/08/2017 17:24

JOGGING MAN didn't display his blue badge then Biscuit

Albatross26 · 15/08/2017 17:25

But surely the idea with disabled spaces is they are close to the shop, suggesting the idea behind them is for those with limited mobility? Obviously there are plenty of 'invisible' illnesses (I have lupus and used to have a blue badge and awful mobility) but the point the op is making is that if someone can jog they don't need to be so close to the shop, not that they're not disabled!

SaucyNoBrainer · 15/08/2017 17:25

If he has a hidden disability shouldn't he have done

Or not pixie

GahBuggerit · 15/08/2017 17:26

No chance of that Pixies, haven't seen her move faster than a slow crawl for about 10 years!

squoosh · 15/08/2017 17:28

Away it is my opinion that this jogging, non blue badge holding, man is more likely to be a lazy chancer who just wanted to park near the doors rather than disabled. The frequency with which people illegally park in these bays would tend to support this. Do you not think this is something that happens all the time?

KatherineMumsnet · 15/08/2017 17:29

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SaucyNoBrainer · 15/08/2017 17:29

squoosh me too

Spikeyball · 15/08/2017 17:29

Kittens the extra 100 yards can make a big difference if you are caring for someone who is at risk and a risk to others in all public places. It doesn't mean there won't still be a problem but it reduces the chances

ShellyBoobs · 15/08/2017 17:30

That's some pretty 'goady fucker' chat yourself love.

You're right.

OP - apologies.

TheEmmaDilemma · 15/08/2017 17:32

I'm not disabled, nor do I know anyone with a Blue Badge. But it fucking boils my piss when I see an entitled wanker without one use one. And I see it on a regular basis at my local superstore.

I give them wicked evils. I've not yet challenged someone...

LaurieMarlow · 15/08/2017 17:32

For all that these threads get swamped people getting vocal about hidden disabilities, I think it's fair to say that the man jogging to the shop with no visible disability and no blue badge is most likely to have not needed the space.

YANBU op, it's a vile thing to do.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 15/08/2017 17:33

thesolitaryboojum sounds like my DS. Very sporty 8yo who's friends nicknamed him usain bolt for his speed. But he has the mental age of a three year old. No sense of danger or hazard awareness. GDD. ASD and speech delay but he can run Hmm

Orangebird69 · 15/08/2017 17:37

I think that maybe the OP shouldn't have mentioned the jogging bit, just the lack of blue badge ..

blankface · 15/08/2017 17:38

@peachgreen "If you need a badge and don't have one, get one."

Have you any idea how difficult they are to get nowadays? For existing disabled people who already have one, they are not automatically renewed by the issuing council, applicants have to have PIP mobility awarded at the enhanced rate. No award, no badge. Even if that person has been struggling for years and has had a Blue Badge for years. It's a disgrace.

For newly disabled or first time blue badge applicants, some Councils will not issue Blue Badges at all unless people have enhanced PIP mobility.

For whoever it was upthread who was struggling with a temporary condition and said they wanted or was it needed a Blue Badge because things were awkward for them for a short space of time, maybe read some of the information on here..
wantmyspacetakemydisability.com/

ginandlime · 15/08/2017 17:40

The only cases I know of autistic people having blue badges are when it is severe, I would argue in these cases they would not be able to drive themselves to a supermarket and go solo to the coffee shop.
I manage these things. I am autistic. I drive. I go to the coffee shop on occasion. I have a blue badge.

ShellyBoobs · 15/08/2017 17:41

I think it's fair to say that the man jogging to the shop with no visible disability and no blue badge is most likely to have not needed the space.

I would agree with this. Yes, we could be wrong but if he had a BB he should have displayed it.

I have a close and very dear disabled (MS sufferer) relative who I take to the shops regularly. If we can't park close enough that she can manage the walking I end up having to go in for her and she loses a little bit more of that independence that's gradually ebbing away from her as time goes on.

Some people are just so inconsiderate and it's those already suffering who lose out again.

MrsHathaway · 15/08/2017 17:42

We were pleased at a recent visit to a Morrisons (Haverfordwest if you're interested) that the sign for the disabled loo had a wheelchair icon and icons for man and woman with the words "not all disabilities are visible".

GMiL had a courtesy car briefly, and forgot to transfer the blue badge. The abuse she got from other drivers (not those wanting the BB space but others) while she hobbled doubled over a walking frame ... Anyway she said she could have borne it from someone who qualified for the space, but it was very hard to take from self-appointed parking police.

So I agree with OP that BB holders should be the ones making a noise saying "I was prevented from parking" rather than the rather telltale "please sir he was naughty tell him off" "What's it to you?" "Er nothing really".

BeyondQueenOfLists · 15/08/2017 17:44

OT, but every time this comes up it make me think - I wish they'd put some away from the front of the shop.
Not all obviously, as a lot of people need the closeness (As do I in my manual chair) but in my powerchair i only need the space not the distance.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 15/08/2017 17:48

I manage these things. I am autistic. I drive. I go to the coffee shop on occasion. I have a blue badge.

That doesn't mean others can. My son can't as he has no concept of safety. Coupled with the fact I'm also disabled and can't run after him so well nowadays. Well it has its challenges. Being close to the store means any bolt offs have minimal risk to them.

swingofthings · 15/08/2017 17:49

9 chances out of 10 the guy was a twat BUT... what if he wasn't? What if indeed, he sufferes from Chron's disease, and although thinking it was under control, he had a sudden attack? Maybe he was on his way to a very important meeting or an interview and he suddenly needed the toilet very badly.

How would you feel if when the poor guy came out, after having to buy new clothes because he soiled himself, having missed his appointment, still crippled in pain, he had to deal with a security person having a go at him because of what you said/did?

FreudianSlurp · 15/08/2017 17:50

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ginandlime · 15/08/2017 17:54

I know Pixies, somebody had decided further upthread that someone with autism probably wouldn't manage to drive and do the coffee shop alone! Just pointing out that if you've met one person with Autism, you've met one person with Autism!

ginandlime · 15/08/2017 17:56

9 chances out of 10 the guy was a twat BUT... what if he wasn't? What if indeed, he sufferes from Chron's disease, and although thinking it was under control, he had a sudden attack? Maybe he was on his way to a very important meeting or an interview and he suddenly needed the toilet very badly.
If he has Crohns, he can apply for a blue badge. He shouldn't be in a bb space without one.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 15/08/2017 17:56

Just pointing out that if you've met one person with Autism, you've met one person with Autism!

Quite so ginandlime! I think that's why posters are (rightly!) taking offence to the ignorant running comment.