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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

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jaynelovesagathachristie · 11/08/2017 22:19

My nan was born in Ireland, dads just got his passport he was always entitled to and I'm going to apply ( I live in Portugal and I want to remain a member of the EU. My nan was a proud Irish lady and so I don't feel remotely cheeky, my cousin who works in Brussels is doing the same. It's a ridiculous thing to say it's cheeky

gelnames · 11/08/2017 22:20

I am talking about Irish immigration from the 50s and forward.

Forget about the no blacks, no dogs, no Irish epiteth. That is a myth.

Britain definitely is the most tolerant place I know.

Is that OK.

MaryWortleyMontagu · 11/08/2017 22:21

Tartyflette I'm in a similar situation (but with a different EU country) But we can use the EU queue when travelling with our husbands! Also EU citizens have the right to live and work freely within the EU with their families (including non EU spouses) and the non EU spouse has the right to equal treatment:

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/family-residence-rights/non-eu-wife-husband-children/index_en.htm

squoosh · 11/08/2017 22:22

Forget about the no blacks, no dogs, no Irish epiteth. That is a myth.

The sentiment was definitely not a myth. Britain in 2017 is a very different place to 1957 Britain. Thankfully.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/08/2017 22:25

I'm not sure Britain is a different place. Muslims seem to be getting the same treatment the Irish used to get.

RosieLig · 11/08/2017 22:26

stupid question but..... I know i'm entitled to one -grandfather born in Dublin. If I get one is there any way my children can too?

gelnames · 11/08/2017 22:27

Sqoosh.

evidence and links required for 1957 Britain as you claim.

Will no one move on ever and give some kudos to a country that saved many an immigrant who grafted.

squoosh · 11/08/2017 22:31

gelnames you need evidence that 1957 wasn't as tolerant as Britain in 2017? Would you ever cop yourself on.

I said 'in the main it's a country in which Irish immigrants have flourished' but please don't start pouting because people aren't falling over themselves to say the UK was nothing but a land of milk and honey for the Irish immigrants. Or any immigrants.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 11/08/2017 22:33

Forget about the no blacks, no dogs, no Irish epiteth. That is a myth

It's not a myth. In fact its a myth that that is was a myth! Proven by, amongst others, a child.
www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/8th-grader-how-she-proved-no-irish-need-apply-signs-existed-despite-denial-from-prof

notevernotnevernotnohow · 11/08/2017 22:33

I know i'm entitled to one -grandfather born in Dublin. If I get one is there any way my children can too?

No, sorry.

Costacoffeeplease · 11/08/2017 22:37

@jaynelovesagathachristie

I also live in Portugal and got my Irish passport earlier this year. I think it's a bit easier going through the Lisbon embassy rather than London or Dublin, they're very helpful too

gelnames · 11/08/2017 22:40

Sqoosh

Britain welcomed immigrants in the 50s.

It may be different now, but back in the day they did.

And that is why there are so many applicants for the Irish (EU) passport now, if they qualify.

Who could really blame them. It is damage limitation. And they are lucky to be able to do it too. Good on them.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 11/08/2017 22:52

Britain welcomed immigrants in the 50s

You keep saying this but what do you actually mean by it?

VulvalHeadMistress · 11/08/2017 22:55

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SomewhatIdiosyncratic · 11/08/2017 22:57

My DCs are eligible for Irish passports due to their parentage. We considered it when DS1 was born but haven't applied for them yet as they last 3 years compared to a British 5 years, and it offered little practical benefit to be a dual passport holder before the referendum. We are watching this space for the timing on applying. They have been born in the EU and had no say in Brexit. I'm happy for them to claim an advantage that they can continue to hold post Brexit as it will enable them to maintain choices about where to live in the EU.

I'm at a stage in life where it looks unlikely that I'll move out of the UK. I definitely won't grumble if I can maintain some benefits by being the spouse of an EU citizen over my British passport.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 11/08/2017 22:57

Actually possibly. But you/they may need to move to Ireland for a period of time

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squoosh · 11/08/2017 23:00

Britain welcomed immigrants in the 50s.

I'm not sure welcomed is quite the word but immigrants needed work and Britain had a network of roads that needed to be dug. It was mutually beneficial.

MyCalmX · 11/08/2017 23:01

Dh, dd1 and dd2 are all Irish and I just applied (2016) for my British citizenship so we could all travel freely through the EU.

Looks like I'm back to being restricted again.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 11/08/2017 23:18

Thanks for the reminder! My father was Irish so I am an Irish citizen. I need to get the DC registered and start organising Irish passports. The DC already have UK and a non EU country passports so this will be their third. Confused

Overrunwithlego · 11/08/2017 23:38

Just FYI - if your parent was born in Ireland but you weren't, then you are automatically an Irish citizen (unless you renounce). Whether you actually apply for an Irish passport is a different matter - but you are entitled to one if and when you want it.

Likewise, if your grandparent was born in Ireland but your parent and you weren't, you can apply to be an Irish citizen by registering on the Foreign Births Register. You don't need to immediately (or indeed ever!) actually hold an Irish passport- but you'll be entitled to one.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 11/08/2017 23:44

If you want to register on the Foreign Births, be aware that you need lots of documents (your birth certs, plus your parents and grandparents, marriage certs, and more) and 300 euro.

goose1964 · 11/08/2017 23:52

My friend's husband got the family Polish IDs just before the referendum in case it went pear shaped. It's possible a move to Poland is on the cards.

Hezeehaahve · 11/08/2017 23:55

I have an Irish passport and will be applying for my DC. My DH is English (no Irish connection other than through marriage to me) can he apply too?

MyheartbelongstoG · 12/08/2017 00:03

Agent - please double check. I'm pretty sure that because you are an Irish citizen your dd automatically is too regardless of where she was born.

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notevernotnevernotnohow · 12/08/2017 00:08

But agent is not an Irish citizen. She intends to apply for a passport via a grandparent, that is not the same thing.