To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

[MyheartbelongstoG]

Just that really.

Yabu - of course it's not 'cheeky'
I can't have one. But DH actually is Irish and has an Irish passport so my son will have one after he is born!

Interestingly, out of laziness, I once tried to get a British passport and I was told that although my Granddad had been born in 1898 when Ireland was in British rule that didn't make me eligible for a British passport, although he held one for a while at least. My grandma was Welsh but that did not count because she was my Grand mother !
Is that still the case, that Grand Father trumps Grand Mother!?

AgentCooper as the non-EU spouse of an EU citizen there is immense benefit to you holding an EU passport to your dh. The EU has quite strict rules about the treatment of spouses of citizens. They pretty much have to be treated as equals - you can go through the EU queue at passport control and you can still move and work within the EU.

Also I am not at all an expert on Irish citizenship, but if you are applying through your grandparents birth as long as you do so before your baby is born you can register your baby as Irish. But if you do it after they are born then they can only become Irish by living in Ireland.

Bardo it depends when you were born and what nationality law was in force at the time of your birth.

AgentCooper do check this out quickly, as I think if you register yourself before your child is born on the register mentioned on this thread, then your child will be an Irish citizen.

What's the benefit- well, even if your husband/partner doesn't have the same citizenship, it gives you and your child (and them usually) the right to go and work and travel not just in Ireland but the whole of the EU bloc, plus things like uni may be open to your child for free (which is a way off admittedly). I can't see why you wouldn't do it in uncertain times, there's no downside at present as there's no duel taxation and there's advantages to having an EU passport holder in the family, if in the future you can't hold both, you could choose.

My children don't hold an Irish passport but another EU one, I am truly grateful for this as the only way we have benefited out of the Brexit mess where we felt unpopular and awful for being a mixed immigrant family- Farage obviously feels the same which is why he's got German passports for his children, I guess (if that's what he was doing at the embassy).

*The Irish moved away to support their families rather than sitting on their backsides when things were bad in the 50s. Britain was good to them.

Most moved over, some didn't. Mostly to Britain and worked their sorry asses off building this and that.*

Speechless

But if I were applying for a British passport surely the laws in force at the time of my grandparents' births would be the relevant issue. Granddad, a bit tricky, he was Irish born in 1898 (showing my age). Grandma, actual Brit born 1905. Somebody in the British Embassy told me that if it had been the other way around I would have been eligible. I was surprised.

Mary and Summer, thank you. I will get looking into this. I was just picturing me standing in the EU queue at the airport while DH and babby were in the other one looking sad!

The thought that my child would be allowed freedom of movement in Europe is immensely positive to me. I work in HE and speak several languages and definitely want to get him interested in languages too, so if it's easier for him to travel that will be a huge bonus.

@MrsDustyBusty

Have you got your voice back yet to explain your lack of speech?

A bit of context for your laryngitis would be so good!

LOL.

Right, Dusty? My jaw dropped reading that. The last line was a highlight for me: I am not being facetious here, but Britain has helped so many people, it should be so proud of that.

The Irish moved away to support their families rather than sitting on their backsides when things were bad in the 50s. Britain was good to them

Britain was good to them in what way? The no Irish signs? The jokes and rudeness? What measurement are you using to suggest that Britain was in any way good to them?

Yes, and most people left? Ya wha', Gay?!

I am not being facetious here, but Britain has helped so many people, it should be so proud of that

You mean all the countries it colonised? yeah, really fucking helpful. I bet they all thanked their lucky stars.

The Irish probably all thanked their lucky stars when the English allowed them to starve to death in their masses as well.

You really can't cure stupid, can you.

Bardo no as you are the one applying for British nationality it's your birth rather than theirs. I'm going to guess that the 1948 nationality act applied to you (meaning you were born between 1948 and 1982 inclusive). Under that law (grand)father did trump (grand)mother. However there was a change in the law in 2009 under the borders, citizenship and immigration act which allows some people who were born before 1983 claiming British citizenship by decent through the maternal line to register as British citizens so it may be worth investigating if this applies to you.

You don't want to see what happens when they're not being just wonderful to you.

If I could apply for an Irish passport I would.

I mean I see what you're saying, but frankly as a Brit living in the EU I'd damn well prioritise securing my future rights here and putting my worries and fears to rest over being abstractly "cheeky".

Papafran

you might have a problem with Britain,

Not mine to solve though. They more than made up for it. More than.

I love Britain for its tolerance of everyone. Great country.

I love Britain for its tolerance of everyone. Great country

Are you thinking of a different country?

gelnames - have you seen any news coverage over the past couple of years? How welcome do you think immigrants are feeling right now?

Yes, there are many countries that are far less tolerant than the UK, but it's not exactly a moment of shining glory.

DH, whose parents came here from Ireland before he was born, is in the process of getting an Irish passport, DS is also entitled to Irish citizenship and will do likewise. (We're all Remainers. )
We had toyed with the idea of moving to France in the past and it may still happen so I presume I'll be allowed to go with him as his spouse? (no chance of Irish citizenship for me.)
But what I'm really looking forward to (not) after 2019 is shuffling along in the 'NON-EU' queue at immigration/passport control whenever we enter an EU country, while he and DS sail through ahead of me in the EU-only line.

gelnames I am just astounded that anyone could be so completely ignorant of (fairly recent) history as to come out with a statement like that. But hey...

Are you thinking of a different country? confused

This!

Are you thinking of a different country?

Haha, yeah, that can be the only explanation. Either that or something fell off the shelf earlier today and hit her on the head.

Re. Britain being good to the Irish well in the case of Irish people making their home in the UK I tend to agree. It's been a long and complex relationship and Irish people certainly faced huge amounts of discrimination but in the main it's a country in which Irish immigrants have flourished.