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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

OP posts:
ElspethFlashman · 11/08/2017 20:08

I have to say as an Irish person, I don't begrudge it at all. I'd do it too, it's sensible.

Fairly disgusting about Farange and the German passports though. Hmm

Andrewofgg · 11/08/2017 20:25

The only people would would be cheeky to do it would be leave-voters.

Given that both counties concerned have and respect the secret ballot that's a distinction without a difference.

Papafran · 11/08/2017 20:35

Given that both counties concerned have and respect the secret ballot that's a distinction without a difference

Well, duh. I didn't mean that the passport office in Ireland would try to demand proof of voting etc. What I meant was that I would think it was cheeky if someone who had voted leave (e.g. on immigration grounds because there's too many forriners here) and then goes on to apply for an Irish passport so that they can still go on their copious trips to spanish resorts. Obviously there is no way of knowing how they voted, but I would think that stinks.

DorisMcSweeney · 11/08/2017 20:49

I once spent a weekend in Dublin, so I am virtually Irish, hence will apply for one.

GreenRut · 11/08/2017 20:51

I'm am Irish citizen by default of my mum being Irish, have applied for mine, and then will apply for my dcs. My dh has no right to anything so me and the dcs will be off round Europe while he stays put Grin

MaryWortleyMontagu · 11/08/2017 20:53

You are not automatically exempted from tuition fee payments at Scottish universities just because you hold a non-UK EU passport. There are residency requirements that you have to meet as well.

jaggythistle · 11/08/2017 20:53

YABU.

I know quite a few who've applied for them for their kids if they have an Irish DH.

JemmyBloocher · 11/08/2017 20:55

I'm getting one and moving to mainland Europe in the next year so that my kids can get another citizenship in the next 5 years or so. Brexit is so intellectually stunted and frankly sad that I no longer have any regrets about leaving the UK. There will be a brain drain (there already is) and only the numpties will be left (imo).

MaryWortleyMontagu · 11/08/2017 20:58

Nigel Farrage does not have a German passport. Germany does not grant citizenship on the basis of marriage alone, you also have to live there and pass language tests and he wouldn't qualify. The whole hoohah about him being spotted at the German embassy last summer was because if you are applying or renewing a child's German passport (and his children qualify through their mother) then the embassy insists that both parents attend the embassy in person to sign the application form.

Genghi · 11/08/2017 21:00

It's disloyal. I hope the first thing the UK does is discount dual citizenship. That will show them.

TestTubeTeen · 11/08/2017 21:00

I wish I was eligible!
More to the point I wish my DC were eligible.
The benefits? Status as EU citizen. Free Movement of People. Work, anywhere across Europe.

Quite good, now the Commomwealth countries have all introduced draconian points based immigration for U.K. citizens.

Genghi · 11/08/2017 21:03

@JemmyBloocher - the only numpties are those leaving the UK at the first sign of trouble. Cowards the lot of you. I was a remainer but will stick around because I want the UK to work.

squoosh · 11/08/2017 21:04

Disloyal? Surely for Remain voters it's the opposite of disloyal. By applying for an Irish passport they're showing loyalty to the EU.

And the UK won't discount dual citizenship so boo hoo to you.

somewhereovertherain · 11/08/2017 21:06

I'm entitled to one and think it will benefit my kids. Rather than the cluster fuck that is Britain at the moment.

Changebagsandgladrags · 11/08/2017 21:08

Why? Well if the Brits hadn't systematically held Ireland back then my ancestors on my dad's side would have stayed in Ireland.

But luckily I get a passport through mum's nationality.

BurleyBob47 · 11/08/2017 21:11

Just need my FBR (Foreign Birth Registration) form witnessed then that's it, ready to apply for Irish citizenship. I have a real need for EU citizenship as I work in Paris and it will make life so much simpler if it turns into a tit-for-tat freedom of movement argument.

SingaSong12 · 11/08/2017 21:16

I'm English, a remainer (and remoaner) and would apply for dual citizenship if I could, but unfortunately I don't qualify.

timeismovingon · 11/08/2017 21:16

For me it's about giving my DCs as many options as possible. Their father has an Irish passport, although wasn't born there. We are currently getting them registered on the foreign births register. I'm not sure why it's cheeky - they have lots of family in Ireland, whom we regularly visit and it's part of their heritage.

I assume that the OP understands that there are many people from outside the EU that are able to get passports for EU countries and therefore access all the EU countries and live where they like? An example of this is people from Goa accessing Portugese passports and therefore settling whereever they like in the EU.

Sorry but this is another case of 'everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't I'!

BurleyBob47 · 11/08/2017 21:17

BTW, in my case my paternal Gran was born in Dublin and moved to UK.My Dad never registered as an Irish citizen but this does not affect my application as I can claim citizenship based on my Gran being Irish.

gelnames · 11/08/2017 21:21

I am going to be a bit controversial here, but what the heck.

The Irish moved away to support their families rather than sitting on their backsides when things were bad in the 50s. Britain was good to them.

Most moved over, some didn't. Mostly to Britain and worked their sorry asses off building this and that. They contributed to Britain in a big way. I know some didn't but that is usual, there are always some who don't. Happens everywhere.

Ireland has never forgotten its diaspora. And that is why Irish passports are available for those who meet the (wide enough) criteria now.

Ireland has a great relationship with Britain and hopefully always will. I know the Troubles intervened but that is behind us now we hope.

It is a very valuable thing to have an EU passport isn't it.

I am not being facetious here, but Britain has helped so many people, it should be so proud of that.

MoonPower · 11/08/2017 21:24

Is it true you can get an Irish passport if your grandparent was Irish?

MoonPower · 11/08/2017 21:25

Ah sorry didn't read all the way down just saw Burleybob's comment Grin

AgentCooper · 11/08/2017 21:26

I'm eligible for one (Irish granny) but on purely practical grounds I don't see much point in me getting one as my DH isn't eligible and I don't think my as yet unborn baby is either.

JemmyBloocher · 11/08/2017 21:28

It is moonpower. I have an Irish grandmother and will get one.

JemmyBloocher · 11/08/2017 21:29

The UK won't work that's the problem.