To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

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Just that really.

It wasn’t my statement

Umm. Yes it was.

But the EU have said pretty much from the beginning their their preference is for a lifetime guarantee that people who have exercised their treaty rights before the cut off point should continue to have those rights

That's interesting. I can't seem to find anything online to corroborate that, could you help?

Which is considerably more than what Theresa May has offered

She's offered the exact same thing. Haven't you read the links I posted?

try not to go off in a huff please.

@DrRanjsLeftEyebrow do you know his full name and where he was born?

@DrRanjsLeftEyebrow maybe start by looking for the death certificate, that might give more information

I have a relative who voted for Brexit, and has never been to Ireland, but is getting an Irish passport (based on being a descendant)..

Prove your statement that 'I'll be fine'. Come on. Where's your evidence

I stated it was an assumption of mine based on what was already said by the UK and EU, it was quite clear it was an assumption.

Have a read of the second link I posted, hopefully it's good news for you. See number 28

@Costacoffeeplease yes (assuming what my mum knows is accurate!)

(just ignoring the obvious troll; not wasting time arguing with them!)

@A4710Rider for me, I live in Portugal, so remaining an EU citizen may guarantee my right to live and work here, although I have also applied for Portuguese citizenship

That's interesting. I can't seem to find anything online to corroborate that, could you help?

Section 6

ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/services/your-rights/uk-after-Brexit_en

Mimpi

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/665869/Joint_report_on_progress_during_phase_1_of_negotiations_under_Article_50_TEU_on_the_United_Kingdom_s_orderly_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union.pdf

I could be wrong though.

@DrRanjsLeftEyebrow then you should be able to search for him in the birth records for that town

She's offered the exact same thing.

For eight years. And if people leave for more than five years they lose their indefinite leave to remain.

So not the same rights they currently have then.

The text you quoted was posted by someone else, not me

Section 6

And how does that differ to what's been offered in return?

And you’ll need a copy of his death certificate too anyway

Have a read of the second link I posted, hopefully it's good news for you. See number 28

Theresa May has thrown out that agreement and said she'll never sign it. Why would that be good news?

(Specifically, by MimpiDreams at 14:30.)

Why am I even engaging with this fuckwittery?

I agree that it's a bit cheeky if they voted leave. Nothing really against them, even the cheeky ones, as a long-term resident from a non-EU country going through the UK citizenship process with great difficulty (and like StrangeLookingParasite, no matter how many people would love my US citizenship, the idea of returning to the States makes me feel ill, like I've got a massive weight on my chest), I think things are hard enough and if you can find something to make it easier, go for it.

For eight years

Rubbish.

*Those EU citizens living in the UK will have their rights enshrined in UK law and enforced by British courts, though the European Court of Justice will have jurisdiction over EU citizens' rights for eight years after the withdrawal day.

EU citizens in the UK will have equal access to social security, health care, education and employment.

But they - and UK citizens in the EU - would lose their rights to residency if they are out of the country for five or more years"*

Literally copying and pasting from your post there, A4.

Theresa May has thrown out that agreement and said she'll never sign it. Why would that be good news

What, the agreement as posted on the You.Gov site?

www.gov.uk/guidance/status-of-eu-nationals-in-the-uk-what-you-need-to-know

EU rights which can’t actually be enforced by the CJEU aren’t really worth the paper they’re written onz

My best friend is German, married to an English man for 36 years. Always had only a German passport. She's just applying for a UK passport as they live half the year in Portugal. She's frightened that one day they won't let her back in 😂😀

It's part of the withdrawal agreement. The agreement she has said she will not sign.

Let's conveniently forget that we're offering everyone here now "settled status" which is more than the EU is offering.

It's part of the withdrawal agreement. The agreement she has said she will not sign

So the report I posted:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/joint-report-on-progress-during-phase-1-of-negotiations-under-article-50-teu-on-the-uks-orderly-withdrawal-from-the-eu

Which is currently on the Gov website isn't actually a report but an agreement.

Or are you saying article 28 was part of a different document to the one I posted, which was then refused?

I am. I live in Portugal and i don't know what will happen to me so i'm getting my ducks in a row just incase