To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

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Just that really.

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It was me who found your particular assumptions annoying, not @tokyo. Smarty pants. And I didn’t say you “weren’t allowed to make assumptions”, just that your particular comments were irritating.

We aren’t all one and the same person dear, just because we happen to disagree with some of what you are saying.

You sound like a petulant little boy btw HTH.

The UK does not pay disability benefits to brits living in countries outside of the EU

Makes sense and I agree with it. DB should be to make you're life better and more managable in the UK and not in a lifestyle choice country.

You sound like a petulant little boy btw HTH

And you're a tedious waffler. All the best.

Can you prove they don't or is that just an assumption of yours. If I'm not allowed to make assumptions, you're not.

I’m a UK citizen living in an EU country. The embassy here holds regular “outreach” meetings. They are usually scheduled at short notice, at times when working people won’t be able to attend.

I’m a member of a Facebook group where people report back from these meetings. The general gist is, “Sorry, we know it’s frustrating, but we don’t have any answers and can’t give you any help or assurances.”

The current talks about citizens’ rights seem to be framed around people currently legally living in one EU state to be able to stay there, but with no onward freedom of movement. Some people who live in one member state and commute to another for work, or who work all over the EU, have not been given any assurances that they will be able to continue doing so.

Personnally, I can’t get any sense out of anyone as to whether my professional qualifications will continue to be accepted as valid by the regulatory body of my profession in the country where I live and work.

Do I feel the UK government is fighting our corner on any of this? Do I fuck.

Their attitude is, you went to live abroad, you sort yourselves out.

Their attitude is, you went to live abroad, you sort yourselves out

I think the real attitude is "as soon as we've cut and deal and made an arrangement with the politburo we'll let you know the full facts. Things are taking so long because the EU are being extremely difficult over everything. Speak soon, love you, UK

EU nationals in the UK are asking the same question and getting no answers from the UK, in fact, its the UK government that are doing their best to placate our EU cousins.

*cut a deal

Makes sense and I agree with it. DB should be to make you're life better and more managable in the UK and not in a lifestyle choice country.

Right. So:

1. You were wrong when you said the EU had nothing to do with British citizens’ right to receive disability benefits.

1. You recognise that people who made a lifestyle choice exercised their legal right to go and live in another EU country and who currently claim disability benefits are now at risk of losing an important source of income.

1. You don’t care.

Is that about the size of it?

Because if that’s the case, why not just save everyone a lot of time be honest and say, “Yeah OK, Brexit is fucking a lot of people’s lives up but they’re not me so I don’t care”?

*no answers from the EU.

I’d say that’s about the size of it @tokyo.

Love you,
Tedious Waffler

Things are taking so long because the EU are being extremely difficult over everything. Speak soon, love you, UK

The EU would like this to be resolved. Unfortunately the UK’s negotiating position doesn’t seem to have moved on significantly from Boris Johnson’s have cake and eat cake “we’d like to have full access to the single market but with no free movement of people, no CJEU involvement and no financial contribution please” proposal from two years ago.

What do you suggest they do, exactly?

I think anyone who voted for Brexit should be banned from applying for a second passport.

FatherMackenzie, I know a few like that myself. One acquaintance voted for Brexit because he didn't like Health and Safety laws, and thought workers should take some responsibility for H&S issues themselves. Erm, that's already how it's supposed to work.

Another person wanted to stick two fingers up to David Cameron, and the third cheerfully admitted that she didn't think she should have been allowed to vote "as I don't really know anything about it".

You were wrong when you said the EU had nothing to do with British citizens’ right to receive disability benefits

I know the UK pays benefits to UK citizens in non EU countries. I didn't know DB wasn't part of that, it makes sense that it isn't.

You recognise that people who made a lifestyle choice exercised their legal right to go and live in another EU country and who currently claim disability benefits are now at risk of losing an important source of income

I do, probably best to move back to the UK now so you can retain your source of income.

You don’t care

I do, my advice to you is to applying for residency in your new home and get the appropriate benefits from them.

You currently have a legal right to it but do you think you should be paid a UK benefit whilst not living in the UK? I don't

The EU would like this to be resolved

Is that your assumption?

No doubt they would like everything to be resolved on their terms, that's obviously not going to happen, nor is it the other way around.

Ha ha ha @ Tedious.

Nice one.

Agree it's only cheeky if they voted brexit. A bit like lawson applying for french citizenship.

I think anyone who voted for Brexit should be banned from applying for a second passport

I like that, erosion of rights because someone doesn't agree with you. Pretty much like the EU in general to be fair.

EU: "Hey Ireland, France, Holland, I didn't like the way you voted, you will have to vote again"

Ire/Fra/Holl: Sure, what were we thinking, sorry to upset you.

No, do it. My husband did and so would I if I could !!!

If you’ve paid all your contributions in the UK for 40 years (as a PP has) then why the hell not?

“Move back to the UK” is not the answer. If it were as simple as that then why not just tell all EU citizens in the UK to go home and all UK citizens in other EU countries to return? What if they dared to marry someone from the other country? What if they have dual national kids?

It’s not fair to advocate just screwing up people’s lives and plans
like that just because your own world view is so narrow you can’t see beyond the end of your front garden.

It’s not fair to advocate just screwing up people’s lives and plans
like that just because your own world view is so narrow you can’t see beyond the end of your front garden

Let's wait shall we, I'm very confident everyone who had rights before Brexit and under the EU will retain them entirely. You're just supposing things again.

Let's wait shall we, I'm very confident everyone who had rights before Brexit and under the EU will retain them entirely. You're just supposing things again.

No, let’s not just “wait shall we”.

People’s lives and careers and incomes and families have been in turmoil for nearly two years thanks to you fuckwits, and we deserve some answers!

I have no confidence in anything you are “confident” about, because you have repeatedly shown yourself to be ill-informed.

I tell you what's not fair is how we were embroiled into the political fabric of the EU without anyone knowing what was really going on It could be said that the UK did not move away from Europe, but that it moved away from us. The British people joined, and were happy to join, a common market. They did not sign up to a social chapter, a single currency or any moves down the road to a superstate.

Nice swerve there A4.

Ignore the real life consequences of this for real life people and just go on another ill-informed political rant instead.