To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

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Just that really.

I'm taking DD to get her pictures taken tomorrow.
Birth certs for me and DH ordered yesterday.
Applications filled in and will be in the post within the week.

We are NIrish, DD is Scottish.

Strongly pro remainers - like fuck do I want a blue passport. you can shove it up your arse

Is anyone applying for another EU passport that voted for Brexit? I'd like to hear from those posters.

I think it's a good idea to apply for a German passport, they will eventually be the de facto leaders of the first fully operational model of a centralised Supranational authority.

Makes sense to be in their gang.

AND there’s the fact that he’s German

I don't think I could ever forgive the Leave voters who decided to strip my daughter and me of our EU citizenship rights, then kept them for themselves. It was a spectacularly shitty thing to do.

But if you voted Remain, I don't see the problem.

Actor Colin Firth recently acquired an italian passport. he has an Italian wife, his children have Italian christian names and he has a house in Umbria. His reasoning was that come brexit and his wife and children face deportation it would be a bit late to argue the case. given the recent debacle over Windrush etc it would seem he was quite right to go down that route given it was legal anyway.

You'll be fine, as will the EU nationals in the UK.

And you know this how?

A4710Rider

Ireland ranked 2nd here so hard to know which index is right

nomadcapitalist.com/nomad-passport-index-2018/

You'll be fine, as will the EU nationals in the UK. And you know this how?

It's a flippant response from someone who is happy to jump off the cliff with no parachute and drag anyone around else around down with them.

I feel sorry for those that didn't want Brexit. We voted remain but have now decided to leave the UK and this was one of the reasons on the pro list.

As an Irish person I personally see no problem with people applying for passports which they are entitled to. Each individual will have their own reasons for why they need it and that is fine with me. Obviously it is an entirely different matter if people are acquiring them fraudulently but that is not what is happening here so apply away imo

No. I come from outside the EU and it is common for Irish people to apply for an Irish passport if they intend to spend time within the EU.

I don't blame them. Many of my friends (not just Irish) now have dual citizenship with an EU country and I'm quite jealous. It would be cheeky if they voted for Brexit but otherwise, why wouldn't you?

I wish I was eligible for an Irish passport. I don’t blame people for wanting to do so. Although I think if you voted for Brexit it’s hypocritical to apply for an Irish passport just to retain your EU status..

Not at all OP - think you’re very wise
Brexshit is vile

Do those who think leave voters would be "cheeky" to now apply for an EU passport also think remain voters should not access anything positive which is retained or created as a result of us leaving the EU?

Which things did you have in mind itinerary?

@itinerary

Remainers who live in the UK won’t have a choice but to live outside the EU because of Brexit. If there are any benefits for the UK then they will naturally benefit from them, because they’re stuck here.

A brexiteer though, who voted to leave but then applies for an eu passport is exercising a choice. And is a massive hypocrite.

Super cheeky if you actually voted for Brexit....and I know people who have done this!

anything positive which is retained or created as a result of us leaving the EU?

It’s not a symmetrical position though, is it?

In one case, you have somebody who has actively voted to remove something from everybody in the affected population, who then themselves actively sets out to preserve that something for themselves (seeing as citizenship, being the thing in question, can’t be shared out with others).

In the other case, you have people who haven’t actively chosen the outcome which is against their personal preferences, but who will be having to live with the overall consequences because, well, here we all are.

One of the funniest things brexiteers say is ‘if you don’t like it, leave’

Umm, you utter twats, don’t you realise that you’ve massively and deliberately restricted my chance to leave?

We’re not all elites like Lawson / with his French house/Farage with his German wife/Johnson with his American passport.

Or what FatherMackenzie said

I was just thinking you put that a lot better than I did @TheElements!

And you know this how

It's pretty easy. The Politburo is Brussels will want to make sure EU citizens get a good deal and get looked after in the UK. They only way they can assure this is to make sure UK people in the EU get the same rights.

So it's just an assumption with no evidence to back it up. More magical Brexit fantasy thinking.

Actually @A4, predicting how future negotiations between nations, which the average person on the street does not fully understand and will probably not be privy to, is not “pretty easy”. There are complicated theories for predicting international relations (game theory - John Nash) is the most famous one. But they aren’t flawless and they aren’t the easiest things to get one’s head around. I should know, as I struggled with it during my international relations modules while studying for my degree in politics. Easy isn’t how I’d describe it personally.

That said, you might be right. I don’t take issue with your prediction, just the fact that you think it’s all pretty simply stuff and you’ve totally got it. You probably haven’t. Nobody does.