To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

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Just that really.

Impossible to say without knowing which country.

We really need to know the country as every country has different nationality rules.

Doesn't in Ireland, I believe. Your parents have to have lived there 3 out of the previous 4 years or you're not a citizen by birth. I imagine plenty of other countries have similar.

The reason Ireland brought that in was cos we were getting a hell of a lot of birth tourism. People literally 9 months pregnant getting on a plane to Dublin.

Elspeth, I remember that. Pregnant women were travelling to Ireland to give birth so that their child would automatically become a citizen, as would they.

I think that only applies to people born after it was brought in though?

Yeah I think so. They couldn't do it retroactively. 2005 I think.

I've not RTWT so apologies for repeating but I have looked into this.
My grandmother was Irish and from what I understand I can have an Irish passport. My children cannot as they were born before my application. If I had had one before they were born then they too could have had one.

Germany

NikiBabe if one of your parents was a German citizen at the time of your birth then yes you would qualify (if it was your mother then you have to have been born after 1975). If neither were German then you may have qualified if they had lived there a certain amount of time before you were born, but you would have had to chose between UK and German citizenship by your 23rd birthday (note that the chosing between nationalities only applies if neither of your parents were German, if one or both of your parents were German then you can hold both nationalities and do not need to choose).

Ah shit. Too late then.

Makes sense to take all options that are open to you. I have both an Irish and British passport (born in Dublin to a UK-born mother), my son (born in London) has both as well and DH (Irish born) is looking at how he can get dual citizenship as well as we do plan on staying in the UK long term.

We voted Remain fwiw - along with 3/4 of our borough.

It's hypocritical if you voted for Brexit, particularly if you were voting to stop or limit free movement. I voted to remain and I'm disgusted that my rights to travel, work and live in another EU country are likely to be withdrawn because of this holy fucking mess.

I'm from NI, a country that voted strongly to remain, and we are being thrown under a bus by politicians in London who haven't a fucking clue what they're doing and care even less. Luckily, as I'm from NI both I and my children are entitled to Irish passports and I can't think of one good reason why we wouldn't get them.

If you are legally entitled to an Irish passport and want to escape the shitshow that is Brexit, you absolutely should not feel guilty about applying. Unless you voted Leave, because then you are an unconscionable hypocrite.

The right to an Irish or other EU passport depends on place and date of birth and citizenship of you, your parents and their parents. Not on how you voted. Many of the people benefiting will be children too young to have voted at all.

The right to an Irish or other EU passport depends on place and date of birth and citizenship of you, your parents and their parents. Not on how you voted. Many of the people benefiting will be children too young to have voted at all.

Well yes, but a Leave voter applying for an EU passport is still an utterly hypocritical tosspot.

Lawful rights and moral rights are two different things. Hypocritical brexiteers can fuck right off.

Why just Ireland?

I've got dual nationality here and Poland, my younger sister has recently decided to apply for a Polish passport too due to Brexit the rest of the family already have a polish passport

The right to an Irish or other EU passport depends on place and date of birth and citizenship of you, your parents and their parents. Not on how you voted

Well obviously. You can be a leave voter and fully entitled to get an EU passport. If you get one though you are a hypocritical wanky tosspot.

But what I'm really looking forward to (not) after 2019 is shuffling along in the 'NON-EU' queue at immigration/passport control whenever we enter an EU country, while he and DS sail through ahead of me in the EU-only line

Don't worry the rules have already changed because of the UK (and Ireland) not being in the Schengen area. I was in a 25 minute queue at Zuerich airport last week - and that was short compared to some of the poor holidaymakers going to Spain etc having 4 hour waits.

What you really want isn't an Irish passport but a Schengen area one.

Mind you, having holidayed in Germany very close to the Swiss border I am now really wondering what the whole Irish border hoo-hah is about. Germany is in the EU, Switzerland is not. Both are in the Schengen area but I don't think Switzerland is in the customs union.

If you are walking around the town (Constance) you can simply walk around. No border controls at all. There is a boat that goes along the Rhine calling at Swiss and German towns on each side of the river. No border controls. They say you have to have a passport but there were no checks and I think you are technically supposed to carry one anyway in Germany.

There did seem to be a proper border stop on the motorway with a short queue.

But it seems to me that it is entirely possible to have a sensible border arrangement with a non-EU state and the EU should just let the Irish and UK governments continue with the Common Travel area. I simply can't see where the issue is, especially given the history.

Mind you, the best solution of all would be to stay in the EU and move on from all this nonsense.

You can be a leave voter and fully entitled to get an EU passport. If you get one though you are a hypocritical wanky tosspot

Exactly

So is it cheeky of an EU national who has lived in the UK for years but not bothered to get citizenship to now be trying? I know a number who are. What's the difference?

No Davros because they didn't need it before but now because of Brexit they do.

Fairy simple logic there yes?

Switzerland is in the Single Market and has free movement.

Yep. I know a firm Brexiteer who's applying for German dual citizenship based on ancestry. Lucky for some. Couldn't quite believe it when he told me.