Gobsmacked at the jogger on the news..

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Who pushed that woman over into the path of a bus.

What a complete and utter wanker - who the hell does that?

Thank goodness she was OK (physically at least- she'll probably be rather nervous about walking along the pavement now

The case has provoked such an outcry that I think it behooves the police to seek out all the CCTV records of his run - it seems they have already been able to examine footage of him running successfully through a crowd at a bus stop, so maybe they will be looking at even more.

I hope they nail him.

They should (if they had time and resources) examine footage of the days before and after the assault to see if the same guy runs that route daily. There might be better images, Ones without sunglasses.

I disugsted that yet agani we have police or TV releasing details of someone and yet his lawyers can absolutely prove he was in the USA at the time of the alleged jogging. Why was he not just asked about that , prove it and no details of his name and job be oput out there?

If he cna prove he was in the USA then I hope he can use EU law to get every single positing of his name removed from the internet. We have to stop this kind of thing. On the other hand if he has a twin who was in the USA at the time or cannot prove it that is another matter but it is jusuch a very simple issue and we had it again with one of those abuse enquiries - someone who had the police bothered to ask could prove he was in X when they said he was in Y and instead of just checking before publishing details they went ahead and leaked it all over.

If they can get to domestic abuse calls in 5 mins (from experience) this has to be in the same category.

Not really. In domestic abuse cases the victim is frequently still in danger. In this case the attacker had disappeared and they had no real reason to think he would come back - plus the victim presumably had people looking after her and he was hardly going to go for her again in those circumstances.

Because the case is now sub judice and that video is part of a prosecution now.

No-one's been charged, have they?

yet his lawyers can absolutely prove he was in the USA at the time of the alleged jogging

They say they can prove it. Or rather, he has told them to say he can prove it. Whether they/can or not has yet to be seen.

Ceto,

Yes: the man who claims he was in the US at the time has been charged and bailed.

toad where did you see he had been charged and bailed?

I commented on a reddit running game Abu this. Stated that it was actually fairly common for women to experience this sort of behaviour in one form or another.

Got shouted down, too miserable apparently.

He's been arrested (not charged) and I am very unhappy about it as they could easily have checked flight tickets, CCTV at airport, his business trip details without him being named. Now if he's lying about the US trip and the police know they can prove he is then fine but I very much doubt his solicitors would say they had proof he was in the USA at the time if that were not gone into and proven to their satisfaction already.

Toadinthehole, I can't find any news reports that say he has been charged?

If they find this man, they should take him to a large square, tie him to a pole and let people pelt him with rotten eggs and other vile stuff and televise it around the world. Then make him wear a t-shirt every day for a year that says: I am the nasty fuck who pushed a complete stranger under a bus because I am a dangerous psychopath.

Scorn is not anger but as you seem to struggle with comprehension, I suppose that is to be expected.

I said 'cross' as you clearly are. Otherwise why the need to make constant digs about my reading comprehension levels?

Wrt attempted murder and premeditation - he had plenty of time to observe both the woman walking and the traffic conditions. He had plenty of time to veer to his left a bit and avoid her.

He chose not to alter his course (charitable here - I think he veered slightly towards her) and in fact to use both arms to push her.

I suspect he had made up his mind what to do from a good few paces away.

I think his employers named him, not the police. Presumably they did so because they knew his name would leak soon enough and decided that putting out a statement would act as damage limitation.

What did they mean by CIs privilege, in this context?

I suspect he had made up his mind what to do from a good few paces away.

Without a doubt, he changed his course and readied his arms when he was at least 8 feet from her.

Also Mathanxiety, she would have been passing him on the left. So I cant believe (some) people defended him for shoving her further to her left. Was he trying to pass her on the right. Even on foot i pass people on the left if we seem to be passing each other and he did not alter his course at all. Has the woman made any confirmation as to whether or not it was this guy?

Yes, and he had so much space to his left (the wall side), as the police statement points out. The police statement hinted very clearly at complete knowledge of what would happen even if he had 'merely' run into her. He went further than that, of course.

In that case if his employer named the one who wasn't abroad to control the PR I can understand it I suppose although I hope they had his consent to do so. If he were in the US at the time (easily proved) why not just get that proof before arresting him then? Call - Sir we believe you may have been jogging on XYZ day. No I was in the USA - here is a copy of my boarding pass, check the CCTV at Heathrow... Okay we will get back to you. Police check - no arrest. Or if they don't want to tip him off call his office and check with his secretary and check the CCTV at both ends at the air ports and only if that shows he was not abroad proceed with an arrest.

Or if they don't want to tip him off call his office and check with his secretary and check the CCTV at both ends at the air ports and only if that shows he was not abroad proceed with an arrest
How would the police know his defence would be that he was abroad without speaking to him first?
I'm guessing that what happened was that having been given his name the police took him in for questioning and it was at that point he provided his alibi.
If his alibi doesn't check out then it's unfortunate that his photo has been splashed all over the media because that will rule out an identity parade as another piece in the jigsaw.

SoPassRemarkable cynically, I'd say its a nice new way to say misogyny that also tars women with the same brush.

Prof Craig Jackson, the head of psychology at Birmingham City University, told Good Morning Britain: “I think what we’re looking at here is an embodiment of what we often see as ‘cis privilege’, or you might want to call it white male privilege.

I'm very confused by this comment in the Guardian account of the case. Isn't "cis" used by transgender people to describe people whose gender matches the sex they are born as? How is it relevant here?

At this point we don't know what the jogger's motivation was. Indeed it completely baffles most people what possible reason there could be to throw a stranger under a bus, but I'm darned sure it wasn't much to do with the jogger being cis as opposed to trans. I also don't think it was much to do with him being white.

I suspect it's more of a 'me, alpha male' attitude. I had my own ideas of the type of guy he might have been and if it is this man then I was in the right ballpark (well off alpha male city type).

If it's not this guy then how did his identity get circulated? Isn't that a lawsuit in the waiting?